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I will try to elaborate. Let's say I throw a rock in a parabolic curve in a plain field. Humans can predict exactly where it will fall. This is because humans

I will try to elaborate. Let's say I throw a rock in a parabolic curve in a plain field. Humans can predict exactly where it will fall. This is because humans know everything about gravity, mass, etc. However, we cannot predict when and where exactly will a random meteor fall. This is because we do not know exactly everything about the universe and the various forces of universe. My thought is that a lot of humans might have understood more about those forces in the past but were unable to effectively pass that information for the next generation to build upon. This could be simply because the cognitive prime of the two generation overlaps for a relatively short period of time. Now had the humans lived long enough to cross some threshold of effective communication and longer overlap of cognitive peak between generations, they could have better able to pass their intuition, experience, thoughts, ideas to the next generation. In other words, there would be less loss of information/knowledge which would be just enough to fill the critical gaps to know everything about the universe. Knowing everything about the universe would enable them to predict everything precisely just as in the example of a parabolic throw of a rock on earth's surface.

Voloskaya 6y ago
This makes very little sense to me. > I throw a rock in a parabolic curve in a plain field. Humans can predict exactly where it will fall No, we can predict this within a margin of error. That margin of error might be small for simple cases but if you add some gusty wind, some rain etc. it can increase quite rapidly. > However, we cannot predict when and where exactly will a random meteor fall We can also predict it within a margin of error just like with the rock in the plain field. But you are comparing an event that last a few seconds (from the throw to the landing) to an event that may last years or more depending on what kind of meteor you are talking about. So of course over the span of years, even a very small imprecision turns out to have very big consequences. If you could throw the rock hard enough so that it orbits earth for some years before coming back, it would be as hard to predict where it would land. > Knowing everything about the universe How could you possibly know everything about the universe when some events are purely random? > In other words, there would be less loss of information/knowledge which would be just enough to fill the critical gaps to know everything about the universe. So you are saying we happen to live at the exact time, where, had we not this knowledge transfer issue, we would know everything? This is quite self-centered. Which also simply mean that in a relative close we will now everything, which seems quite ludicrous.
- galaxyLogic 6y ago
  Also take into account quantum theory. There IS no precise location and velocity at the same time. There are only probabilities. At least according to the Copenhagen interpretation
p1mrx 6y ago
> My thought is that a lot of humans might have understood more about those forces in the past but were unable to effectively pass that information for the next generation to build upon. This sounds incredibly unlikely. When do you imagine that these people lived? What data were they using to derive their scientific theories? What technology were they using to generate that data? You can't hope to explain the universe without observing it first, and humans are quite bad at observation without the aide of technology.
alexashka 6y ago
You seem to not be taking the limits of a human brain into account.

Voloskaya 6y ago

This makes very little sense to me. > I throw a rock in a parabolic curve in a plain field. Humans can predict exactly where it will fall No, we can predict this within a margin of error. That margin of error might be small for simple cases but if you add some gusty wind, some rain etc. it can increase quite rapidly. > However, we cannot predict when and where exactly will a random meteor fall We can also predict it within a margin of error just like with the rock in the plain field. But you are comparing an event that last a few seconds (from the throw to the landing) to an event that may last years or more depending on what kind of meteor you are talking about. So of course over the span of years, even a very small imprecision turns out to have very big consequences. If you could throw the rock hard enough so that it orbits earth for some years before coming back, it would be as hard to predict where it would land. > Knowing everything about the universe How could you possibly know everything about the universe when some events are purely random? > In other words, there would be less loss of information/knowledge which would be just enough to fill the critical gaps to know everything about the universe. So you are saying we happen to live at the exact time, where, had we not this knowledge transfer issue, we would know everything? This is quite self-centered. Which also simply mean that in a relative close we will now everything, which seems quite ludicrous.

galaxyLogic 6y ago
Also take into account quantum theory. There IS no precise location and velocity at the same time. There are only probabilities. At least according to the Copenhagen interpretation

p1mrx 6y ago

> My thought is that a lot of humans might have understood more about those forces in the past but were unable to effectively pass that information for the next generation to build upon. This sounds incredibly unlikely. When do you imagine that these people lived? What data were they using to derive their scientific theories? What technology were they using to generate that data? You can't hope to explain the universe without observing it first, and humans are quite bad at observation without the aide of technology.

alexashka 6y ago

You seem to not be taking the limits of a human brain into account.