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Bringing back social isn't about getting rid of images and focusing on ASCII text, it's about getting rid of URLs and article snippets, and refocusing solely on

Bringing back social isn't about getting rid of images and focusing on ASCII text, it's about getting rid of URLs and article snippets, and refocusing solely on user created content. Remember when streams were only filled with updates from old friends and family with things like birthday parties, vacations, graduations, concerts, restaurant meals, etc., and nothing else? (Sort of like Instagram still is, but with text allowed, two-way authorization only and without the "influencers".) Now you log in (FB, Twitter, etc.) only to find out which of your casual acquaintances are the most gullible, racist, sexist, homophobic, sociopathic or worse by the news items they're spewing into their increasingly extreme echo chamber. Sure, the same thing could be conveyed by a selfie wearing a MAGA hat, but it would happen much, much less often. All these services would have to do to get back to their social roots is provide a default filter for news items. But they refuse, and in fact are increasingly manipulating your feed instead to increase "engagement" (read: anger and hate). I'm amazed that a social-only network hasn't taken off yet that provides this basic functionality. It feels like the time is right for something like this.

soneca 6y ago
I am trying to build exactly this, positioning as a personal journal that you can share. But the end game is exactly what you described. I'd love to have your feedback if you care to take a look: https://www.quidsentio.com https://www.quidsentio.com
- ilovetux 6y ago
  I'm not the gp, but i like the look and feel of the site. I also love the idea. I've been using group messages (mms) for this purpose and its been working great. It has the advantage that nobody needs to go to a website or download an extra app, but it has the drawback that sometimes people forget that I started a group message and will use that thread to start a new conversation with someone and people get messages that were not intended for them. I'm interested in the claim that its impossible to share content with someone that doesn't have permission. How do you protect against copy/paste or screenshots?
  - soneca 6y ago
    Thanks! About the sharing, I am sorry, but I didn't want to claim that it is impossible to share. I will check the phrasing, but the idea is that it doesn't have a sharing feature (like retweeting or the share button on phones). You can't click on a button to forward the content. You still can copy/paste and screenshot normally. It is not built-in, so not encouraged by design.
    - ilovetux 6y ago
      > there is no way to share content outside of the list of who posted it. I can see how I misunderstood. Still it seems like it might be a good compromise and would get me around the issue I described with mms of unintentional sharing. I'm going to see if I can get some of my family and friends to sign up with me.
      - soneca 6y ago
        That's great! Your feedback will be very valuable (you can just reply the Welcome email). Btw, I just changed that line to: Also, there is no feature to share content outside of the list of who posted it.
alexashka 6y ago
> I'm amazed that a social-only network hasn't taken off yet that provides this basic functionality You'd have a hell of a time making it profitable. It'd have to be run like a charity, which would cost nearly nothing in the scheme of things, but we just don't seem to have any people who want to do good and happen to have enough money to do it. It'll take a rich rebel who gets tired of billionaire fine dining and says fuck it, I'm for the people who don't have a penny to their name, not you rich schmucks.
Zpalmtree 6y ago
> Sure, the same thing could be conveyed by a selfie wearing a MAGA hat Everyone wearing a MAGA hat is "gullible, racist, sexist, homophobic, sociopathic or worse"? Maybe you're the one in an extreme echo chamber.

soneca 6y ago

I am trying to build exactly this, positioning as a personal journal that you can share. But the end game is exactly what you described. I'd love to have your feedback if you care to take a look: https://www.quidsentio.com https://www.quidsentio.com

ilovetux 6y ago
I'm not the gp, but i like the look and feel of the site. I also love the idea. I've been using group messages (mms) for this purpose and its been working great. It has the advantage that nobody needs to go to a website or download an extra app, but it has the drawback that sometimes people forget that I started a group message and will use that thread to start a new conversation with someone and people get messages that were not intended for them. I'm interested in the claim that its impossible to share content with someone that doesn't have permission. How do you protect against copy/paste or screenshots?
- soneca 6y ago
  Thanks! About the sharing, I am sorry, but I didn't want to claim that it is impossible to share. I will check the phrasing, but the idea is that it doesn't have a sharing feature (like retweeting or the share button on phones). You can't click on a button to forward the content. You still can copy/paste and screenshot normally. It is not built-in, so not encouraged by design.
  - ilovetux 6y ago
    > there is no way to share content outside of the list of who posted it. I can see how I misunderstood. Still it seems like it might be a good compromise and would get me around the issue I described with mms of unintentional sharing. I'm going to see if I can get some of my family and friends to sign up with me.
    - soneca 6y ago
      That's great! Your feedback will be very valuable (you can just reply the Welcome email). Btw, I just changed that line to: Also, there is no feature to share content outside of the list of who posted it.

alexashka 6y ago

> I'm amazed that a social-only network hasn't taken off yet that provides this basic functionality You'd have a hell of a time making it profitable. It'd have to be run like a charity, which would cost nearly nothing in the scheme of things, but we just don't seem to have any people who want to do good and happen to have enough money to do it. It'll take a rich rebel who gets tired of billionaire fine dining and says fuck it, I'm for the people who don't have a penny to their name, not you rich schmucks.

Zpalmtree 6y ago

> Sure, the same thing could be conveyed by a selfie wearing a MAGA hat Everyone wearing a MAGA hat is "gullible, racist, sexist, homophobic, sociopathic or worse"? Maybe you're the one in an extreme echo chamber.