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Login with Apple is coming for them, don't worry. Only a matter of time before Apple makes that even stricter and more dominant. I doubt Facebook's argument to
by vmception 6y ago
Login with Apple is coming for them, don't worry. Only a matter of time before Apple makes that even stricter and more dominant. I doubt Facebook's argument to the antitrust board will be compelling as Apple masks login data for the app and data broker, while Facebook only wants to aggregate it.
- AlexandrB 6y agoI fear Login with Apple is another poison pill. Sure it's better than some of the current alternatives, but if it's suddenly in Apple's best interest to abuse their position for data gathering, they will.
- vmception 6y agoThen it'll be ironic if an antitrust lawsuit turns into court ordered or legislative wins for user privacy and data-property.
- sebastien_b 6y agoYup, they’ve introduced APIs in iOS 14 to make it easier to convert a regular login to “Sign in with Apple”: https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2020/10666/ https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2020/10666/
- toomuchtodo 6y agoAs an Apple ecosystem user, I’m very much looking forward to Sign In with Apple replacing most of my password manager entries. I want a one click “upgrade” path from email/password to Apple managing the auth.
- rubber_duck 6y agoAs someone who uses Apple products occasionally (currently on MBP, used iPhones in the past) I doubt I would switch even if I went all in on the Apple ecosystem again. Their devices and software have annoyed me in the past to the point where I made the switch - anything Apple specific like this makes it a PITA move to a different platform. Google isn't perfect either - there is a low but realistic chance that they could kill my account at any time with no support options and I'm looking in to ways to protect against this while retaining the benefits - but in practice switching between mobile platforms and all desktop OS-es works like a charm. I use sing-in with Facebook when Google isn't an option. I'm really not concerned with data tracking - it's omnipresent at this point - not worth the energy to think about personally.
- vmception 6y agoSign in with Apple exists on other platforms No different than Google sign in while having a hardware ecosystem
- politelemon 6y ago> Login with Apple is coming for them, don't worry That's an even greater cause for worry and I fear what will come of this, I would treat their login SDK as the same poisoned chalice that the Facebook login SDK is. Worst - they're effectively forcing app developers to introduce it if they have any kind of social login in their apps, which is an incredibly dick move. Any other company doing this would get negative attention but in our collective hypocricy we keep painting this in a positive light. It absolutely is _not_ a good thing... but this is HN.
- dcow 6y agoI definitely agree with you that this is not a good thing and that Apple is pulling a 100% certifiable dick move by doing this. Who in their right mind would want to implement an email authentication method that just paid out 100k because someone found out they weren't actually authenticating emails. I mean come on... I'd love to see Apple eat their own dog-food on this one and then we could see if it's really ready for prime time.
- adwww 6y agoWhat happens to all your connections if you stop owning Apple devices? Sounds like a nice way to keep you locked into a very expensive ecosystem.