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Can we add cigarette filters to the list? If I had a penny for every ...

by minerjoe 6y ago

NeutronStar 6y ago
They should force companies to use biodegradable filters.
- wolco 6y ago
  Paper breaks down well over time. Now those black coffee lids not so much.
  - NeutronStar 6y ago
    > 95% of cigarette filters are made of cellulose acetate (a plastic), and the balance are made from papers and rayon.
wolco 6y ago
Ban single use paper and cotton? If you collected each you might have a penny a piece if you could recycle into something people want like homemade face masks.
- raverbashing 6y ago
  It's not cotton, it's Cellulose Acetate. Not very bio-degradable usually
  - wolco 6y ago
    10 years maximum. https://uhs.berkeley.edu/tobaccofacts https://uhs.berkeley.edu/tobaccofacts Which is reasonanable. Styrofoam cup's are not. How quick do other things take to breakdown? Vegetables 5 days –1 month Paper 2–5 months Cotton T-shirt 6 months Orange peels 6 months Tree leaves 1 year Wool socks 1–5 years Plastic-coated paper milk cartons 5 years Leather shoes 25–40 years Nylon fabric 30–40 years Tin cans 50–100 years Aluminium cans 80–100 years Glass bottles 1 million years Styrofoam cup 500 years to forever Plastic bags 500 years to forever
    - minerjoe 6y ago
      Just because dog-shit breaks down fast, does not give even a single dog the right to drop it on my lawn.
- nikeee 6y ago
  Cigarette filters are the largest source of trash floating in the ocean and are usually not bio-degradable [1, 2]. They end up as micro plastics. Banning them instead of plastic straws can be seen as vastly more effetive [3]. Edit: It seems pretty useless as they essentially have no function (edit: to health), since the near-universal adoption of filters on cigarettes has not reduced harms to smokers and lung cancer rates have not declined [4]. And the color change is something that was added to make the filter to appear to be effective [5]: > The tobacco industry determined that the illusion of filtration was more important than filtration itself. It added chemicals in the filter so that its colour becomes darker when exposed to smoke (it was invented in 1953 by Claude Teague working for R. J. Reynolds Tobacco Company). The industry wanted filters to be seen as effective, for marketing reasons, despite not making cigarettes any less unhealthy. So trying to be rational here, they don't have any health benefits and are responsible for a large share of the microplastics in our ocean. [1]: https://www.businessinsider.de/international/new-study-shows-cigarettes-are-single-largest-source-of-ocean-trash-2018-9/ https://www.businessinsider.de/international/new-study-shows... [2]: https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/2019/08/cigarettes-story-of-plastic/ https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/2019/08/cigar... [3]: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/plastic-straw-ban-cigarette-butts-are-single-greatest-source-ocean-n903661 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/plastic-straw-ban-cigar... [4]: https://tobaccocontrol.bmj.com/content/20/Suppl_1/i10 https://tobaccocontrol.bmj.com/content/20/Suppl_1/i10 [5]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cigarette_filter#Colour_change https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cigarette_filter#Colour_change
  - wolco 6y ago
    "they have no function". They limit and control the amount of smoke. Provides a more consistant experience. I read your #4 source as proof. It talks about how cigarette companies tried coming up with a filter to reduce death but stopped because the filters were reducing the taste/experience. That doesn't tell us filters have no use. Include that link it tells us that in the 50s cigarette companies offered filterless and filtered versions. Customers preferred the filtered versions. You made the mistake of thinking the only purpose of filters is less death. Filters prevent tabacco from fall out, better taste, more consistant smoke, nevermind you need somewhere to hold the cigarette as it burns and without a filter you throwaway more tabacco. #5 Most cigarettes butts are not brown at least in my megacity. White is more popular. Cigarette butts can take upto 10 years to breakdown at the most. https://uhs.berkeley.edu/tobaccofacts https://uhs.berkeley.edu/tobaccofacts Single use plastics take 1,000 years. One will breakdown in your pets lifetime the other will take a millennia. We need to ban single plastic use. And perhaps dig a little deeper before making assuming associations (if cigarettes are bad the filters must be destorying the earth / meanwhile the coffee lids you get every morning is really the problem)
grardb 6y ago
You'd have a bunch of currency that isn't really in circulation anymore, if my understanding of the Canadian penny is correct!
- frosted-flakes 6y ago
  The penny is still worth one cent. It is actively being removed from circulation and isn't given as change, but you can still freely spend any you still have.
asdff 6y ago
Removing ash trays from public life was one of the worst recent urban decisions we've made. People don't quit smoking because they can't find an ash tray, they just throw the butt on the ground and buy another pack, and no one cleans it up. Not too long ago, practically every building had one of those plastic post ash trays out front.

Can we add cigarette filters to the list? If I had a penny for every ...

NeutronStar 6y ago

They should force companies to use biodegradable filters.

wolco 6y ago
Paper breaks down well over time. Now those black coffee lids not so much.
- NeutronStar 6y ago
  > 95% of cigarette filters are made of cellulose acetate (a plastic), and the balance are made from papers and rayon.

wolco 6y ago

Ban single use paper and cotton? If you collected each you might have a penny a piece if you could recycle into something people want like homemade face masks.

raverbashing 6y ago
It's not cotton, it's Cellulose Acetate. Not very bio-degradable usually
- wolco 6y ago
  10 years maximum. https://uhs.berkeley.edu/tobaccofacts https://uhs.berkeley.edu/tobaccofacts Which is reasonanable. Styrofoam cup's are not. How quick do other things take to breakdown? Vegetables 5 days –1 month Paper 2–5 months Cotton T-shirt 6 months Orange peels 6 months Tree leaves 1 year Wool socks 1–5 years Plastic-coated paper milk cartons 5 years Leather shoes 25–40 years Nylon fabric 30–40 years Tin cans 50–100 years Aluminium cans 80–100 years Glass bottles 1 million years Styrofoam cup 500 years to forever Plastic bags 500 years to forever
  - minerjoe 6y ago
    Just because dog-shit breaks down fast, does not give even a single dog the right to drop it on my lawn.
nikeee 6y ago
Cigarette filters are the largest source of trash floating in the ocean and are usually not bio-degradable [1, 2]. They end up as micro plastics. Banning them instead of plastic straws can be seen as vastly more effetive [3]. Edit: It seems pretty useless as they essentially have no function (edit: to health), since the near-universal adoption of filters on cigarettes has not reduced harms to smokers and lung cancer rates have not declined [4]. And the color change is something that was added to make the filter to appear to be effective [5]: > The tobacco industry determined that the illusion of filtration was more important than filtration itself. It added chemicals in the filter so that its colour becomes darker when exposed to smoke (it was invented in 1953 by Claude Teague working for R. J. Reynolds Tobacco Company). The industry wanted filters to be seen as effective, for marketing reasons, despite not making cigarettes any less unhealthy. So trying to be rational here, they don't have any health benefits and are responsible for a large share of the microplastics in our ocean. [1]: https://www.businessinsider.de/international/new-study-shows-cigarettes-are-single-largest-source-of-ocean-trash-2018-9/ https://www.businessinsider.de/international/new-study-shows... [2]: https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/2019/08/cigarettes-story-of-plastic/ https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/2019/08/cigar... [3]: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/plastic-straw-ban-cigarette-butts-are-single-greatest-source-ocean-n903661 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/plastic-straw-ban-cigar... [4]: https://tobaccocontrol.bmj.com/content/20/Suppl_1/i10 https://tobaccocontrol.bmj.com/content/20/Suppl_1/i10 [5]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cigarette_filter#Colour_change https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cigarette_filter#Colour_change
- wolco 6y ago
  "they have no function". They limit and control the amount of smoke. Provides a more consistant experience. I read your #4 source as proof. It talks about how cigarette companies tried coming up with a filter to reduce death but stopped because the filters were reducing the taste/experience. That doesn't tell us filters have no use. Include that link it tells us that in the 50s cigarette companies offered filterless and filtered versions. Customers preferred the filtered versions. You made the mistake of thinking the only purpose of filters is less death. Filters prevent tabacco from fall out, better taste, more consistant smoke, nevermind you need somewhere to hold the cigarette as it burns and without a filter you throwaway more tabacco. #5 Most cigarettes butts are not brown at least in my megacity. White is more popular. Cigarette butts can take upto 10 years to breakdown at the most. https://uhs.berkeley.edu/tobaccofacts https://uhs.berkeley.edu/tobaccofacts Single use plastics take 1,000 years. One will breakdown in your pets lifetime the other will take a millennia. We need to ban single plastic use. And perhaps dig a little deeper before making assuming associations (if cigarettes are bad the filters must be destorying the earth / meanwhile the coffee lids you get every morning is really the problem)

grardb 6y ago

You'd have a bunch of currency that isn't really in circulation anymore, if my understanding of the Canadian penny is correct!

frosted-flakes 6y ago
The penny is still worth one cent. It is actively being removed from circulation and isn't given as change, but you can still freely spend any you still have.

asdff 6y ago

Removing ash trays from public life was one of the worst recent urban decisions we've made. People don't quit smoking because they can't find an ash tray, they just throw the butt on the ground and buy another pack, and no one cleans it up. Not too long ago, practically every building had one of those plastic post ash trays out front.