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Has the prosecutor on his case been brought to light and justice yet? If not, why not?
by troughway 6y ago
Has the prosecutor on his case been brought to light and justice yet? If not, why not?
- jupiterboy 6y agoUsing a throwaway in effort to avoid being arbitrarily harassed, but: of course not, almost as a matter of course, the state does not bring justice against itself, especially when you can defer or abstract away the fundamentals as "law enforcement" or "investigations." A reminder that even with the wave of media attention, approximately zero of the cops involved in the recent unambiguous murder of black people have been brought to justice.
- phone8675309 6y agoWe can only hope that a private citizen takes great vengeance upon them in the dark, quiet hours of the night, when they least expect it.
- credit_guy 6y agoThe idea of "checks and balances" is that the state absolutely can and should bring justice "against itself". Or rather that there are multiple branches in the state, and whenever one commits an abuse some of the other branches will pursue justice on behalf of the victims.
- tux1968 6y ago> approximately zero of the cops... have been brought to justice. Is that true though? At least in the recent George Floyd case the 4 cops involved were all fired the next day from their jobs and have all been charged and are awaiting trial.
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- GaryNumanVevo 6y agoAfter weeks of protests, they were charged. I have no doubt if it weren't for the protests the officers would have had desk duty for a few months and put back out on the street.
- tux1968 6y agoThey were all fired the very next day after the incident.
- jgon 6y agoAfter the murder. They were fired the very next day after murdering a man. When we call it an "incident" our sanitized language steals all of the context and meaning of the event. When a person drinks too much at a Christmas party it is an incident. When someone has a nervous breakdown in public, it is an incident. When someone kneels on a person's neck for 8 minutes and 46 seconds, as they beg for mercy, say they can't breath, and then cry out for their mother it is a murder. They were fired after murdering a man. Can you imagine that standard being applied to literally any single other field than police officers?
- tux1968 6y agoI have never seen the video and I don't know enough about it to declare it a murder, sorry. The main point of my reply was to assuage the fears of the parent that they would have gotten desk duty and been put back on the street without weeks of protest.
- perfmode 6y agoif you haven’t seen the video and you don’t know enough about it, why do you feel your contributions to the discussion are worthwhile?
- tux1968 6y agoI started out asking an honest question, and afterward offered factual information, not my personal opinion. Even if I had seen the video i'd be very leery of making a legal judgement about murder. I'm very sure those guys shouldn't be police, and at the very least they made a mistake that cost a person his life. I was trying not to get embroiled in a discussion about how the legal case will turn out while still offering some factual information. It simply did not take weeks of protest to ensure that these cops would not be back on the street after some desk work.
- wtallis 6y agoThe 1992 LA riots were more than a year after the Rodney King beating. The event that precipitated the riots was the acquittal of the officers who were caught on tape. Being fired and charged is not being "brought to justice". It's just the first step, and there's a history of the system failing to follow through with trial, conviction, and fair sentencing.
- tux1968 6y agoThe officers involved in the Rodney King beating were later convicted in federal court. The riots just happened too soon to let the case fully work through the justice system.
- empath75 6y agoProsecutors routinely get away with worse every single day. You just don’t hear about most of them because they don’t usually target rich kids.