> That is simply not true. I'm not claiming anything controversial. Power not having scaled as well as area recently is often referred to as the end of Dennard

> That is simply not true. I'm not claiming anything controversial. Power not having scaled as well as area recently is often referred to as the end of Dennard scaling: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennard_scaling#Breakdown_of_Dennard_scaling_around_2006 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennard_scaling#Breakdown_of_D... > You can run the 64 Core on EPYC 2 all at once at 3Ghz all with Air Cooling. That can be true despite the fact that power hasn't scaled as well as area. > At every node they have reduced power consumption Yep, just not as much as they improved area.