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You're missing the point. People are being accused for crimes they (more than likely) didn't commit and denied basic human rights. They face a 99% conviction r
by mthoms 6y ago
You're missing the point. People are being accused for crimes they (more than likely) didn't commit and denied basic human rights.
They face a 99% conviction rate in the Chinese courts.
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/article-china-charges-michael-kovrig-and-michael-spavor-with-spying/ https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/article-china-charges-...
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- koheripbal 6y agoWhat do you think the conviction rates in western courts are? It's pretty close to 99% as well.
- mthoms 6y agoYou literally just made that up. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conviction_rate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conviction_rate
- pizza 6y agoSo is 93% (DoJ, 2012) far or close to 99%?
- isoprophlex 6y ago13 out of 14, or 99 out of 100. You be the judge. Edit: more like 999 out of 1000 as per that wiki page: > In China, the justice system has a conviction rate of 99.9% in 2014.
- shadowprofile77 6y agoNo he didn't. The link itself shows both the lower 2018 percentages from the justice statistics bureau and also mentions the 2012 DOJ 93% rate. No clear explanation is given for the divergence over those years or how it fits together overall but he didn't lie about the source.
- mthoms 6y agoRe-read the part where they said "western courts". Also, that 93% number is Federal only. As per the link, the state numbers range (roughly) from the low 60's to the low 80's.
- ddona 6y agoIn 2018, the Bureau of Justice Statistics reported that among defendants charged with a felony, 68% were convicted (59% of a felony and the remainder of a misdemeanor) with felony conviction rates highest for defendants originally charged with motor vehicle theft (74%), driving-related offenses (73%), murder (70%), burglary (69%), and drug trafficking (67%); and lowest for defendants originally charged with assault (45%). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conviction_rate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conviction_rate
- kolanos 6y agoWas curious, so looked it up: > In 2018, the Bureau of Justice Statistics reported that among defendants charged with a felony, 68% were convicted (59% of a felony and the remainder of a misdemeanor) with felony conviction rates highest for defendants originally charged with motor vehicle theft (74%), driving-related offenses (73%), murder (70%), burglary (69%), and drug trafficking (67%); and lowest for defendants originally charged with assault (45%). China's rate in 2014 was 99.9%. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conviction_rate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conviction_rate
- ddona 6y agoMoved off the front page quickly...Gone!
- Flowsion 6y ago>For 2012, the US Department of Justice reported a 93% conviction rate. Japan also looks like it has a 99% conviction rate. Most countries have the ability to exit-ban foreigners visiting their country. It's not unique to China at all. US does it. Canada does it. South Korea does it. I think the warning from the US Government is that, in their opinion, China will illegally detain you over made up charges, be careful.
- pas 6y agoThere are very serious problems with the Japanese justice system [too].
- calvinmorrison 6y ago'practices such as interrogating suspects without counsel or charge for up to 23 days' Say what you want about Ghosn but, I'd GTFO too