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I've visited China nearly every year for the past 6 years and never had any sort of issues. I thought all the security personnel I encountered at the airport, i

I've visited China nearly every year for the past 6 years and never had any sort of issues. I thought all the security personnel I encountered at the airport, immigration, subway stations etc in China were very professional and respectful. In contrast to one of the last times I was returning from China to the U.S. and witnessed a highly unprofessional U.S. CBP officer who was yelling and berating incoming international visitors because they couldn't understand his English, which was infuriating. All this to say that if you want to visit China recreationally (outside of pandemics), you'll almost certainly be fine and treated well. *Edit: I'm just offering my personal experience here for others to consider amongst other sources of information.

monksy 6y ago
Not sure how you went from an article warning people that the new security regulations to well they're ok people. This security letter means that could have non-citizens detained/charged (penalties range from 10 years prision to life). Their decision to charge you is very badly defined. The offense doesn't even have to happen in their own country. Mentioning how Hong Kong is an independent region is one of those violating items in that letter.
mytailorisrich 6y ago
In China if you're a (especially white) foreigner/tourist you tend to be treated better than the locals might be. But you should remember that you're a guest and not push your luck.
jszymborski 6y ago
I'm not sure how you can make that assurance. Fellow Canadians have had to watch as an increasing number of Canadians are arbitrarily detained and held in torturous conditions. These Canadians range from high-profile and wealthy[0] to low-profile [1,2], and the conditions in which they are detained are an affront to human rights. [0] https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-michael-kovrig-michael-spavor-canadian-detainees-china-explainer/ https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-michael-kov... [1] https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/article-canadian-sentenced-to-eight-years-in-jail-by-china-renounces/ https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/article-canadian-sente... [2] https://torontosun.com/news/national/123-canadians-detained-in-chinese-jails-foreign-affairs https://torontosun.com/news/national/123-canadians-detained-...
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EForEndeavour 6y ago
I don't mean to be snarky, but is it possible that your personal experience in the past cannot perfectly predict the experiences of other people in the future, who may well visit different parts of the country, encounter different personnel, and will say and write different things?
Nginx487 6y ago
Of course, if it did not happen to you, it may never happen to anyone else, like to these Canadian citizens who have been here taken hostages, or Australian citizen sentenced to death.
praptak 6y ago
I agree that the probability of CCP choosing you as their hostage is low, it is only low as of now. Who can guarantee they never choose a mass arrest as the way to exert pressure on the West?

monksy 6y ago

Not sure how you went from an article warning people that the new security regulations to well they're ok people. This security letter means that could have non-citizens detained/charged (penalties range from 10 years prision to life). Their decision to charge you is very badly defined. The offense doesn't even have to happen in their own country. Mentioning how Hong Kong is an independent region is one of those violating items in that letter.

mytailorisrich 6y ago

In China if you're a (especially white) foreigner/tourist you tend to be treated better than the locals might be. But you should remember that you're a guest and not push your luck.

jszymborski 6y ago

I'm not sure how you can make that assurance. Fellow Canadians have had to watch as an increasing number of Canadians are arbitrarily detained and held in torturous conditions. These Canadians range from high-profile and wealthy[0] to low-profile [1,2], and the conditions in which they are detained are an affront to human rights. [0] https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-michael-kovrig-michael-spavor-canadian-detainees-china-explainer/ https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-michael-kov... [1] https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/article-canadian-sentenced-to-eight-years-in-jail-by-china-renounces/ https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/article-canadian-sente... [2] https://torontosun.com/news/national/123-canadians-detained-in-chinese-jails-foreign-affairs https://torontosun.com/news/national/123-canadians-detained-...

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EForEndeavour 6y ago

I don't mean to be snarky, but is it possible that your personal experience in the past cannot perfectly predict the experiences of other people in the future, who may well visit different parts of the country, encounter different personnel, and will say and write different things?

Nginx487 6y ago

Of course, if it did not happen to you, it may never happen to anyone else, like to these Canadian citizens who have been here taken hostages, or Australian citizen sentenced to death.

praptak 6y ago

I agree that the probability of CCP choosing you as their hostage is low, it is only low as of now. Who can guarantee they never choose a mass arrest as the way to exert pressure on the West?