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> Karm Gilespie, had been sentenced to death for attempting to smuggle 7.5kg of methamphetamine through a Chinese airport in December 2013. The death penalty t

> Karm Gilespie, had been sentenced to death for attempting to smuggle 7.5kg of methamphetamine through a Chinese airport in December 2013. The death penalty threshold is 50 gram for methamphetamine in China, in absence of other 'good behavior' such as collaboration, etc. If any Chinese citizen attempted to smuggle this much drugs into China, it's going to be the same fate, except maybe faster. Drug dealers in China are executed for much less. To paint that as 'retaliation for ongoing conflict' is laughable.

kortilla 6y ago
So the police can conveniently plant an amount of drugs that fits in their hands quickly into your pocket and you get the death penalty? Sounds like a super convenient way to kill off politically inconvenient people.
- genoapol 6y ago
  >So the police can conveniently plant an amount of drugs that fits in their hands quickly into your pocket... Sounds like something US police have done in record numbers with many cases caught on camera. ---Reply to Tristor here due to post rate limit Knowing history, western hypocrisy, and warhawking when I see it, is "Pro-China" now? Were you alive during the ramp up to the Iraq war? I suspect many would have incorrectly shared your sentiment if I was publicly anti-invasion. When the US military industrial complex yells "squirrel" repeatedly, choosing to not be a sucker isn't "Pro-China" or "Pro-Iraq".
  - tristor 6y ago
    At least this statement is relatively accurate, although I don't know that the phrase "record numbers" applies. Every single comment you've made in this thread has been an example of pro-China whataboutism. You claim to be European, but I'm pretty sure you're not. You've had an account just over 30 days on HN and every comment you have made is pro-China. Seems to me you are not a legitimate participant in this discussion.
- gentleman11 6y ago
  One interesting part is that, when the authorities lose the people’s trust, people can’t rely on what they say to be accurate and you end up second guessing everything they say or do. It’s actually an important Chinese (Confucian/daoist-sometimes) idea to emphasize the importance of legitimacy and that the working of society is relies on it
razakel 6y ago
Why would someone smuggle meth into China? Surely with China's fairly lax regulations on the chemical industry someone would be more likely to be smuggling it out...
- Aperocky 6y ago
  A lot of regulation in China is barely/at all enforced, but if you think that also apply to drug regulation then you're very very wrong. Entertainment figures regularly gets shunned by the whole industry because they were caught smoking pot, which is not even a criminal offense in China. The whole mentality is worth a book but to the Chinese society (not just government) drugs are taken very seriously.
- yorwba 6y ago
  Yes, he was arrested after trying to fly out of China with meth in his luggage.
bassman9000 6y ago
Which is a lesson China has probably learnt, painfully well, after the Opium Wars: they have swift death penalties for traffickers, but, in a move that would seem hypocritical for us, but completely normal for them, flood the US with fentanyl and other addictive substances.
Nginx487 6y ago
Did anyone think what was the reason to smuggle drugs into China, while it is notorious for outgoing drug trafficking? I bet they detain a random man and accused of a crime he did not commit. Why? Because they can.

kortilla 6y ago

So the police can conveniently plant an amount of drugs that fits in their hands quickly into your pocket and you get the death penalty? Sounds like a super convenient way to kill off politically inconvenient people.

genoapol 6y ago
>So the police can conveniently plant an amount of drugs that fits in their hands quickly into your pocket... Sounds like something US police have done in record numbers with many cases caught on camera. ---Reply to Tristor here due to post rate limit Knowing history, western hypocrisy, and warhawking when I see it, is "Pro-China" now? Were you alive during the ramp up to the Iraq war? I suspect many would have incorrectly shared your sentiment if I was publicly anti-invasion. When the US military industrial complex yells "squirrel" repeatedly, choosing to not be a sucker isn't "Pro-China" or "Pro-Iraq".
- tristor 6y ago
  At least this statement is relatively accurate, although I don't know that the phrase "record numbers" applies. Every single comment you've made in this thread has been an example of pro-China whataboutism. You claim to be European, but I'm pretty sure you're not. You've had an account just over 30 days on HN and every comment you have made is pro-China. Seems to me you are not a legitimate participant in this discussion.
gentleman11 6y ago
One interesting part is that, when the authorities lose the people’s trust, people can’t rely on what they say to be accurate and you end up second guessing everything they say or do. It’s actually an important Chinese (Confucian/daoist-sometimes) idea to emphasize the importance of legitimacy and that the working of society is relies on it

razakel 6y ago

Why would someone smuggle meth into China? Surely with China's fairly lax regulations on the chemical industry someone would be more likely to be smuggling it out...

Aperocky 6y ago
A lot of regulation in China is barely/at all enforced, but if you think that also apply to drug regulation then you're very very wrong. Entertainment figures regularly gets shunned by the whole industry because they were caught smoking pot, which is not even a criminal offense in China. The whole mentality is worth a book but to the Chinese society (not just government) drugs are taken very seriously.
yorwba 6y ago
Yes, he was arrested after trying to fly out of China with meth in his luggage.

bassman9000 6y ago

Which is a lesson China has probably learnt, painfully well, after the Opium Wars: they have swift death penalties for traffickers, but, in a move that would seem hypocritical for us, but completely normal for them, flood the US with fentanyl and other addictive substances.

Nginx487 6y ago

Did anyone think what was the reason to smuggle drugs into China, while it is notorious for outgoing drug trafficking? I bet they detain a random man and accused of a crime he did not commit. Why? Because they can.