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The Cold War had regular threats of nuclear annihilation as well as constant military testing of each other's response times and perimeter. There are no Chines
by koheripbal 6y ago
The Cold War had regular threats of nuclear annihilation as well as constant military testing of each other's response times and perimeter. There are no Chinese nuclear bombers violating US airspace forcing USAF jet scrambling.
This is far far less antagonistic. ...at least for now.
- grawprog 6y agoWell considering China's been harassing Philippino fishing boats and starting minor skirmishes along the Indian border. Both countries are trading partners and have ties with america and America's now sent naval forces to the south China sea. https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/navy-ships/a33218348/us-military-south-china-sea/ https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/navy-ships/a332183... The threat of nuclear war isn't the only thing that makes a cold war. It's the constant small economic, social and military pushes by these countries against eachother.without ever formally declaring war.
- koheripbal 6y agoI think there's a pretty big psychological difference between harassing a fishing boat and threatening nuclear war. Canada also harasses US fishing boats, fyi. https://www.nytimes.com/1989/12/13/us/fishing-boat-dodges-gunfire-and-canadian-navy.html https://www.nytimes.com/1989/12/13/us/fishing-boat-dodges-gu...
- mthoms 6y agoI'd not heard of this incident and found it interesting. Here's more context. https://www.csmonitor.com/1989/1219/afish.html https://www.csmonitor.com/1989/1219/afish.html
- jorblumesea 6y agoMaybe not with US territory directly but China has been extremely aggressive in the South China Sea. Despite this being international waters, Western aligned nations and US ships have been directly harassed and threatened. The Chinese island military bases are a direct move to allow area denial. They [the CCP] also export Chinese-style internet controls and ideological ideas around censorship and the acceptability of mass surveillance and targeting of dissidents. The loans given to countries by China are often neo-colonial in nature, tying African countries to China by debt. This is definitely Soviet-Era style cold war tactics. Could be ripped out of the 60s with the names replaced.
- unishark 6y agoAre you calling Vietnam a western-aligned nation? I'd say it just looks like China versus whoever stands in their way as they invent new claims to resources in the region.
- jorblumesea 6y agoI was thinking more of the Philippines / Taiwan / Indonesia, but fair point. Vietnam has also received a fair amount of Chinese aggression despite being "socialist brothers".
- Nginx487 6y agoVietnam and China have never been "socialist brothers", and even just brothers. They are adversaries on the civilizational level, 17 big wars during the last 20 centuries, half of them for Vietnamese independence. The last armed conflict happened in 1989, when China occupied disputed islands in the South-China sea. Vietnam would side to anyone against China (source: I live here)
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- Nginx487 6y agoVietnam at this time clearly an ally of the US and other Western countries, against China of course. There was a plan to create a naval base in Cam Rahn, but new US administration cancelled this.
- jki275 6y agoChina’s been in proxy wars with the US for maybe seventy years or so if my numbers are right. It’s not the same exactly as Russia, but there are parallels.
- koheripbal 6y agoThe same could be said for any two major world powers with conflicting interests.