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> What I'm trying to say is that: each "head" is responsible for the culture they create So often people forget that leaders set the cultural. > Notably the E

by saos 6y ago

> What I'm trying to say is that: each "head" is responsible for the culture they create So often people forget that leaders set the cultural. > Notably the Editoriale team (gatekeepers for games) was recently expanded to be more diverse.. that diversity was all middle-aged white french guys who came from the same school and had worked in that department before.. so.. not very diverse. This saddens me. I do wonder if tech will ever see a proper shift in diversity within teams and leadership. But, what exactly is diversity?

kthejoker2 6y ago
Diversity is variation among traits. It's easy to calculate for a given group, and also easy to devise a statistical test to ensure the group represents your desired distribution. The only questions (to your point) are what traits you want to measure, and what distribution you desire. For a product or service team, the traits you measure should be those that maximize product fit - that is, the chances that your target buyers will buy and enjoy your product. And the distribution you desire should be a reflection of your target buyers.
- dwaltrip 6y ago
  > For a product or service team, the traits you measure should be those that maximize product fit - that is, the chances that your target buyers will buy and enjoy your product. This is overly reductionist. It makes me sad. Life is more than inputs in, product out, dollars in. Humanity is also quite far from having the sophistication to properly design and construct the type of measurements you are talking about. If it is something we should even do in the first place. The article I read right before coming to this comment page was the one currently on the front page about being “too efficient”. Very apt. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23809291 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23809291
- objclxt 6y ago
  > And the distribution you desire should be a reflection of your target buyers. You seem to be saying your team should only be as diverse as your target buyers, but your target buyers are often only as diverse as your team. If you try to ham-fist diversity by saying “oh, it’s representative of our customers” be prepared for somebody else to come along and snap up everyone you aren’t serving today.

by saos 6y ago

kthejoker2 6y ago

Diversity is variation among traits. It's easy to calculate for a given group, and also easy to devise a statistical test to ensure the group represents your desired distribution. The only questions (to your point) are what traits you want to measure, and what distribution you desire. For a product or service team, the traits you measure should be those that maximize product fit - that is, the chances that your target buyers will buy and enjoy your product. And the distribution you desire should be a reflection of your target buyers.

dwaltrip 6y ago
> For a product or service team, the traits you measure should be those that maximize product fit - that is, the chances that your target buyers will buy and enjoy your product. This is overly reductionist. It makes me sad. Life is more than inputs in, product out, dollars in. Humanity is also quite far from having the sophistication to properly design and construct the type of measurements you are talking about. If it is something we should even do in the first place. The article I read right before coming to this comment page was the one currently on the front page about being “too efficient”. Very apt. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23809291 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23809291
objclxt 6y ago
> And the distribution you desire should be a reflection of your target buyers. You seem to be saying your team should only be as diverse as your target buyers, but your target buyers are often only as diverse as your team. If you try to ham-fist diversity by saying “oh, it’s representative of our customers” be prepared for somebody else to come along and snap up everyone you aren’t serving today.