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In my book a professional that marries a given platform so hard is no true professional. Although it might seem oh so sensible and realistic to give into even m

In my book a professional that marries a given platform so hard is no true professional. Although it might seem oh so sensible and realistic to give into even more strings to be attached. It should give these professionals pause if they are so utterly dependent on a system. There are also quite a lot of professionals that could easily switch with some minor inconveniences. PS: I find it jarring how you are associating the casual user with a web developer type.

_ph_ 6y ago
A professional shouldn't be "married" to a platform, but most professionals have a clear understanding which platform gives them the best productivity and the environment they like to work in. There are quite a few things which keep me going with the Mac over a Windows machine, though WSL makes the latter more interesting than it had been in the past.
qayxc 6y ago
> I find it jarring how you are associating the casual user with a web developer type. How so? Both don't require any special hard- or software environment and in principle only need an environment that provides access to a modern browser (and optionally some tools for office, graphic editing and the like). You can use cloud-based services like REPL.it to fulfil all your development needs in the browser. Backends are available in the cloud and all your source code lives there anyway. No need for beefy local hardware or any particular OS. It's the ultimate platform-agnostic development activity and thus your OS or hardware shouldn't matter - just like it shouldn't matter for casual users; every mainstream and even many niche OS these days are usable enough for everyday tasks and running modern browsers. If you think it's somehow degrading to say that modern web development doesn't require any more hard- or software than casually browsing the web, watching movies, or editing holiday pictures, then you completely missed the point. It's actually great that you don't need expensive workstation level hard- and software to do web development and that - in principle - an iPad with a keyboard will do.
- fierarul 6y ago
  >> I find it jarring how you are associating the casual user with a web developer type. > How so? Both don't require any special hard- or software environment Because you're implying they're not professionals. Requiring specific hardware / software doesn't make one more professional. The entirety of Java developers are using cross platform tools. Are Java developers not professionals? More to the point, all the major IDEs are Java based and you could run them on Linux too.
  - qayxc 6y ago
    > Because you're implying they're not professionals. Don't be ridiculous - nowhere did I imply that. If you feel that way, that's more projection than anything else.
    - fierarul 6y ago
      > Don't be ridiculous - nowhere did I imply that. You did imply that: > It might be fine for your web developer type or casual user. > Professionals, however,.... "However" means "on the other hand" and it looks like you emphasise professionals. > If you feel that way, that's more projection than anything else. Could have also been a Freudian slip from you.
      - qayxc 6y ago
        By "professional" I meant self-employed people who make a living from working with their computer. This should be clear form the context, but alas that's among the things that go by many people these days. You chose to ignore this meaning of the word and decided to be offended instead. Fair enough, but not my problem.

_ph_ 6y ago

A professional shouldn't be "married" to a platform, but most professionals have a clear understanding which platform gives them the best productivity and the environment they like to work in. There are quite a few things which keep me going with the Mac over a Windows machine, though WSL makes the latter more interesting than it had been in the past.

qayxc 6y ago

> I find it jarring how you are associating the casual user with a web developer type. How so? Both don't require any special hard- or software environment and in principle only need an environment that provides access to a modern browser (and optionally some tools for office, graphic editing and the like). You can use cloud-based services like REPL.it to fulfil all your development needs in the browser. Backends are available in the cloud and all your source code lives there anyway. No need for beefy local hardware or any particular OS. It's the ultimate platform-agnostic development activity and thus your OS or hardware shouldn't matter - just like it shouldn't matter for casual users; every mainstream and even many niche OS these days are usable enough for everyday tasks and running modern browsers. If you think it's somehow degrading to say that modern web development doesn't require any more hard- or software than casually browsing the web, watching movies, or editing holiday pictures, then you completely missed the point. It's actually great that you don't need expensive workstation level hard- and software to do web development and that - in principle - an iPad with a keyboard will do.

fierarul 6y ago
>> I find it jarring how you are associating the casual user with a web developer type. > How so? Both don't require any special hard- or software environment Because you're implying they're not professionals. Requiring specific hardware / software doesn't make one more professional. The entirety of Java developers are using cross platform tools. Are Java developers not professionals? More to the point, all the major IDEs are Java based and you could run them on Linux too.
- qayxc 6y ago
  > Because you're implying they're not professionals. Don't be ridiculous - nowhere did I imply that. If you feel that way, that's more projection than anything else.
  - fierarul 6y ago
    > Don't be ridiculous - nowhere did I imply that. You did imply that: > It might be fine for your web developer type or casual user. > Professionals, however,.... "However" means "on the other hand" and it looks like you emphasise professionals. > If you feel that way, that's more projection than anything else. Could have also been a Freudian slip from you.
    - qayxc 6y ago
      By "professional" I meant self-employed people who make a living from working with their computer. This should be clear form the context, but alas that's among the things that go by many people these days. You chose to ignore this meaning of the word and decided to be offended instead. Fair enough, but not my problem.