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There are many around the world and in USA who would say the exact same about the USA and I'm sure China says the exact same about USA. I personally see no dif
by entropea 6y ago
There are many around the world and in USA who would say the exact same about the USA and I'm sure China says the exact same about USA.
I personally see no difference between the two except they're both fighting to be the world superpower and China is really stepping in to take that role from a USA in distress.
- refurb 6y agoHmmm... US invades Japan, turns it from a militant authoritarian system into a democracy, then gives it independence. Invades, then turns Philippines into a sovereign nation. Same with South Korea. Same with Western Europe post-WW2. Has China done that?
- Redoubts 6y ago> Invades, then turns Philippines into a sovereign nation. Yes, tell me more about what the US did in the Philippines.
- rayiner 6y agohttps://www.pewresearch.org/global/2018/11/12/views-of-the-u-s-and-president-trump/ https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2018/11/12/views-of-the-u... And those places have a quite positive views of America. > In 2018, two-thirds (67%) see the U.S. positively, up 10 percentage points from 2017. > But the Japanese public has less esteem for America than do Filipinos (83%) and South Koreans (80%).
- refurb 6y agoInteresting. I know Vietnam has one of the most pro-American viewpoints of any country. Last poll I saw had >90% holding a positive view of the US.
- bmitc 6y agoThe U.S. has explicitly suppressed plenty of other governments before, both for ideological and economic reasons. Read about Salvatore Allende, who was elected via a democratic process in 1970s Chile on a socialist reform platform and then was subsequently overthrown and killed, via suicide after being surrounded, with heavy involvement via the U.S. CIA. China has not typically gone beyond their own historical borders, and when they have, it is miniscule compared to how the U.S. has.
- rayiner 6y agoAnd now Chile has the highest HDI in Latin America.
- bmitc 6y agoThat is immaterial to the discussion.
- refurb 6y agoChina supported the Khmer Rouge which killed 1 out of 4 Cambodians. Want more examples?
- bmitc 6y agoThe intended point of my comment was to provide a counterpoint to yours. The things you listed in either comment do not absolve the U.S. from its vast influence via warfare for its own ideological and economic gains, which is what your original comment that I replied to was trying to do.
- refurb 6y agoWhose is talking about absolution. Yes the US has done bad things. But there are degrees of bad things and I would argue China has done worst things and continues to do so.
- entropea 6y ago"Supporting" is a lot different than "directly killing people" like US does worldwide in regime change conflicts and wars.
- entropea 6y agoFrankly it's not the business of the USA to "turn a system into a democracy". Every government has and can fall at the hands of its own people if needed. You cited two viciously deadly and brutal examples of imperialism and I don't think you're making a great point.
- rayhendricks 6y agoThere is a difference. You can make fun of Trump/McConnel all day long, and no one cares because it is our free speech. Try putting a Xi Jinping blimp up in Beijing and see how fast you get arrested. Try being a minority religion in China too...