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Umm I live in an neighborhood where few apartment complexes have car charging stations and one of my pastimes is observing build quality of Teslas (and sometime

Umm I live in an neighborhood where few apartment complexes have car charging stations and one of my pastimes is observing build quality of Teslas (and sometimes Leaf or some other ones) - I have not yet found a Model 3 without uneven panel gaps - some are acceptable if you don't compare them to another mainstream car but still it's not what one would expect from a $35K car.

GaryNumanVevo 6y ago
Same, coworker had to take his brand new model X back to Tesla, three times to get the panel gaps fixed. They just took a rubber mallet to his car
- natch 6y ago
  Different priorities. I have a coworker who thinks that they need to charge their Model X to full on each leg of a long journey! Very wrong. Quite odd what people think and do including coworkers. I know another guy who could not abide having concrete in his patio, and had to have it replaced with tiles! Point is there are always people who get obsessed with strange things. Including panel gaps. Like your coworker. Someone showed me an imperfection on my Model 3 panel gaps once and I hadn’t even noticed it. And now I couldn’t even tell you where on the car it was. It was so minor as to be unnoticeable unless you are actively looking for it. Meanwhile the factory is only getting better.
  - GaryNumanVevo 6y ago
    Panel gaps are a result of poor quality control and poor precision manufacturing. Something I would expect in a car that costs 3-4 times less than a Tesla. He's a car guy, but we've never owned vehicles with panel gaps, and I've driven all sorts of tin cans.
    - natch 6y ago
      Like I said these were problems early on in the production cycle of Model 3. But I will take a Model 3 with panel gaps over a Skoda or a Corolla without them 10 times out of 10. BTW the long term costs are equivalent because of gas and maintenance savings and the lifetime of a Model 3 being 3x longer, and it also keeps your family alive unlike the Skoda or other cars which are not as safe.
      - touristtam 6y ago
        > BTW the long term costs are equivalent because of gas and maintenance savings and the lifetime of a Model 3 being 3x longer, and it also keeps your family alive unlike the Skoda or other cars which are not as safe. The same argument have been used for VW/Audi diesel cars since the 90s, alongside resale value. It doesn't hide the fact that Tesla are extortionate outside the USA, and have used some questionable practices to survive in this cut-throat market against long established corporation.
natch 6y ago
Curious, how do charging stations figure into what you are saying?
- blinkingled 6y ago
  They don't. They just make it easier to spot parked Teslas/EVs.
  - natch 6y ago
    OK. FWIW in my apartment building fully 50% of the spaces are occupied by Teslas, with no charging stations on site.

GaryNumanVevo 6y ago

Same, coworker had to take his brand new model X back to Tesla, three times to get the panel gaps fixed. They just took a rubber mallet to his car

natch 6y ago
Different priorities. I have a coworker who thinks that they need to charge their Model X to full on each leg of a long journey! Very wrong. Quite odd what people think and do including coworkers. I know another guy who could not abide having concrete in his patio, and had to have it replaced with tiles! Point is there are always people who get obsessed with strange things. Including panel gaps. Like your coworker. Someone showed me an imperfection on my Model 3 panel gaps once and I hadn’t even noticed it. And now I couldn’t even tell you where on the car it was. It was so minor as to be unnoticeable unless you are actively looking for it. Meanwhile the factory is only getting better.
- GaryNumanVevo 6y ago
  Panel gaps are a result of poor quality control and poor precision manufacturing. Something I would expect in a car that costs 3-4 times less than a Tesla. He's a car guy, but we've never owned vehicles with panel gaps, and I've driven all sorts of tin cans.
  - natch 6y ago
    Like I said these were problems early on in the production cycle of Model 3. But I will take a Model 3 with panel gaps over a Skoda or a Corolla without them 10 times out of 10. BTW the long term costs are equivalent because of gas and maintenance savings and the lifetime of a Model 3 being 3x longer, and it also keeps your family alive unlike the Skoda or other cars which are not as safe.
    - touristtam 6y ago
      > BTW the long term costs are equivalent because of gas and maintenance savings and the lifetime of a Model 3 being 3x longer, and it also keeps your family alive unlike the Skoda or other cars which are not as safe. The same argument have been used for VW/Audi diesel cars since the 90s, alongside resale value. It doesn't hide the fact that Tesla are extortionate outside the USA, and have used some questionable practices to survive in this cut-throat market against long established corporation.

natch 6y ago

Curious, how do charging stations figure into what you are saying?

blinkingled 6y ago
They don't. They just make it easier to spot parked Teslas/EVs.
- natch 6y ago
  OK. FWIW in my apartment building fully 50% of the spaces are occupied by Teslas, with no charging stations on site.