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Fyi... "Each team must include at least one student (graduate or undergraduate in Engineering or Computer Science) who was a full-time student in the 2010-2011

by bradly 16y ago

Fyi... "Each team must include at least one student (graduate or undergraduate in Engineering or Computer Science) who was a full-time student in the 2010-2011 academic year."

phwd 16y ago
Is it only Electrical Engineers or all Engineers ? Must an engineer (CS or EE) be on the team? Does the engineer have to be a student? EE stands for Electrical Engineer or does that encompass SE and CE as well ?
- mey 16y ago
  EE is generally separate, and when I went to school 7 years ago, my college was just starting it's CE program, and didn't have an SE program. Edit: Implying that they may not have an CE or SE program (didn't look)
- pushpins 16y ago
  This should help clarify. You need one engineer, but they do not have to be a student. · Each team must include at least one individual who was a student (graduate or undergraduate) in the 2010-2011 academic school year · At least ONE member of the team must have a degree in Computer Science or Engineering
phlux 16y ago
hmmm. Where can I get my hands on some fresh students!
magsafe 16y ago
This student requirement seems a bit weird, arbitrary, and makes me question their agenda. Are they doing this to truly support hot new startups, or are trying to to encourage some kind of academic accomplishment? I know lots of great founders who would love to apply, but have been out of school for a few years so they're ineligible? wtf. As far as I can see, the FAQ doesn't address what's up with the full-time student requirement thing.
- guptaneil 16y ago
  edit: nevermind, ignore the comment below. I missed the fact that it's any 10 weeks within the 6/1 to 9/30 date range, so students on semester system are eligible too. In addition to requiring full-time students, it disqualifies any students on the semester system since all winners are apparently required to work in their office from June 1st to September 30. Only students on quarter systems can meet that requirement, narrowing their applicant pool even farther.
  - ericangel 16y ago
    Not true. It's any 10 weeks between June 1st and Sept 30. We did the program, and each took a couple weeks off for family vacation. The Lightspeed guys were totally cool with it.
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- waterlesscloud 16y ago
  I wonder if there's some tax benefit for them to have a student involved.
  - matthewslotkin 16y ago
    i would guess that this guarantees that they will have someone on a there team that is actually capable of building something. hobbyists are nice and often extremely capable, but the CS student qualification basically ensures that they aren't investing in a bunch of kids using iWeb.
beatpanda 16y ago
Yeah, this really sucks and doesn't make a lot of sense, especially given this: http://techcrunch.com/2011/03/21/engineering-vs-liberal-arts-who%E2%80%99s-right%E2%80%94bill-or-steve/ http://techcrunch.com/2011/03/21/engineering-vs-liberal-arts...
- pushpins 16y ago
  They only require 1 person on the team to have a CS-degree. However, if you are a coder (and don't have a CS degree) - you should be fine. It would be difficult to build a product over the summer if you didn't have someone on the engineering side on the team.
henryl 16y ago
Basically, de facto age discrimination.
- rewind 16y ago
  So we're going to say a program that helps women is discrimination against men, and a program that helps minorities is discrimination against white people? Why must a program that helps one group of society be viewed as discrimination against all others? Some people just insist on looking for the negative side of everything, even when there isn't one.
  - waqf 16y ago
    Yes, we're going to say those things, because we like to consider an issue from all sides, including the negative ones. After we've done so, we'll make a decision on whether it's good or bad overall.
  - leif 16y ago
    Gee, if only you were around when they were letting all the white kids go to better schools to help them out.
- johnrob 16y ago
  Seems like it. Maybe they are specifically trying to connect with the younger crowd. As a VC, they're naturally going to skew toward the 30s and up crowd and this could be a counter measure.
- mayank 16y ago
  Not necessarily. Graduate programs, especially PhD programs, generally have many "older" students. I've seen PhD students in their 40s with several kids. But I'll agree that the requirement seems arbitrary without an explanation.

by bradly 16y ago

Fyi... "Each team must include at least one student (graduate or undergraduate in Engineering or Computer Science) who was a full-time student in the 2010-2011 academic year."

phwd 16y ago

Is it only Electrical Engineers or all Engineers ? Must an engineer (CS or EE) be on the team? Does the engineer have to be a student? EE stands for Electrical Engineer or does that encompass SE and CE as well ?

mey 16y ago
EE is generally separate, and when I went to school 7 years ago, my college was just starting it's CE program, and didn't have an SE program. Edit: Implying that they may not have an CE or SE program (didn't look)
pushpins 16y ago
This should help clarify. You need one engineer, but they do not have to be a student. · Each team must include at least one individual who was a student (graduate or undergraduate) in the 2010-2011 academic school year · At least ONE member of the team must have a degree in Computer Science or Engineering

phlux 16y ago

hmmm. Where can I get my hands on some fresh students!

magsafe 16y ago

This student requirement seems a bit weird, arbitrary, and makes me question their agenda. Are they doing this to truly support hot new startups, or are trying to to encourage some kind of academic accomplishment? I know lots of great founders who would love to apply, but have been out of school for a few years so they're ineligible? wtf. As far as I can see, the FAQ doesn't address what's up with the full-time student requirement thing.

guptaneil 16y ago
edit: nevermind, ignore the comment below. I missed the fact that it's any 10 weeks within the 6/1 to 9/30 date range, so students on semester system are eligible too. In addition to requiring full-time students, it disqualifies any students on the semester system since all winners are apparently required to work in their office from June 1st to September 30. Only students on quarter systems can meet that requirement, narrowing their applicant pool even farther.
- ericangel 16y ago
  Not true. It's any 10 weeks between June 1st and Sept 30. We did the program, and each took a couple weeks off for family vacation. The Lightspeed guys were totally cool with it.
  - deleted 16y ago
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waterlesscloud 16y ago
I wonder if there's some tax benefit for them to have a student involved.
- matthewslotkin 16y ago
  i would guess that this guarantees that they will have someone on a there team that is actually capable of building something. hobbyists are nice and often extremely capable, but the CS student qualification basically ensures that they aren't investing in a bunch of kids using iWeb.

beatpanda 16y ago

Yeah, this really sucks and doesn't make a lot of sense, especially given this: http://techcrunch.com/2011/03/21/engineering-vs-liberal-arts-who%E2%80%99s-right%E2%80%94bill-or-steve/ http://techcrunch.com/2011/03/21/engineering-vs-liberal-arts...

pushpins 16y ago
They only require 1 person on the team to have a CS-degree. However, if you are a coder (and don't have a CS degree) - you should be fine. It would be difficult to build a product over the summer if you didn't have someone on the engineering side on the team.

henryl 16y ago

Basically, de facto age discrimination.

rewind 16y ago
So we're going to say a program that helps women is discrimination against men, and a program that helps minorities is discrimination against white people? Why must a program that helps one group of society be viewed as discrimination against all others? Some people just insist on looking for the negative side of everything, even when there isn't one.
- waqf 16y ago
  Yes, we're going to say those things, because we like to consider an issue from all sides, including the negative ones. After we've done so, we'll make a decision on whether it's good or bad overall.
- leif 16y ago
  Gee, if only you were around when they were letting all the white kids go to better schools to help them out.
johnrob 16y ago
Seems like it. Maybe they are specifically trying to connect with the younger crowd. As a VC, they're naturally going to skew toward the 30s and up crowd and this could be a counter measure.
mayank 16y ago
Not necessarily. Graduate programs, especially PhD programs, generally have many "older" students. I've seen PhD students in their 40s with several kids. But I'll agree that the requirement seems arbitrary without an explanation.