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Let's say IBM wants to build a huge free electron laser, and synchrotron light source, maybe mimic SLAC. NSLS-II, currently being built at BNL, has a total pro
by juiceandjuice 16y ago
Let's say IBM wants to build a huge free electron laser, and synchrotron light source, maybe mimic SLAC.
NSLS-II, currently being built at BNL, has a total project cost of $912 million. LCLS, at SLAC, has a total project cost close to $350 million or so, but it's been estimated that they saved several hundred million reusing previous facilities from the linac (plus land) So, $1bn to build, plus operational costs which would be pricy. And you want one of each because a FEL is different than a synchrotron.
Now, for your $2bn+ops costs, you can service maybe 500 experiments a year, maybe a bit more, but less than the demand. At the labs, proposals for experiments that are generally picked are picked based off of merit, usefulness, promise, etc... not necessarily based on who can pay to use the facilities and what sort of profits could be tied to the research. You know... science, often done by tons of professors who get their money from the government as well.
Admittedly, the budget hits probably wouldn't affect the operations of these facilities too much, but they would definitely affect the people who propose to use these facilities. For example, the guys who did this research probably don't get their funding out of the operating costs of the SSRL.
So, yes, the government is the only entity that has invested this kind of money (largely through the DOE) to be able to do this on the scale that they do. I don't see any company picking up the slack anytime soon.
Lists of light sources:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_synchrotron_radiation_facilities http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_synchrotron_radiation_f...
http://sbfel3.ucsb.edu/www/fel_table.html http://sbfel3.ucsb.edu/www/fel_table.html
- GregBuchholz 16y agoWhat's the right way to account for opportunity costs? How do we know that $2 billion spent here is better than investing $100,000 in seed money for 20,000 startups?
- secretasiandan 16y agoIf you question the government's ability to decide if it should go to hard science or 20K startups, then how can you trust their ability to choose which 20K startups? In general, if you don't trust the government's ability to make a decision, then how can you trust their ability to delegate those decisions? This is a decision in and of itself.
- juiceandjuice 16y agoRoom temperature superconductors are cooler (hah!) than 20,000 social networking photo apps.
- Stormbringer 16y agoSo you're saying that social networking is really hot right now? Thanks for the tip! ;-)