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> Changing people's minds is not easy - then or now. Shaming works way better than just talking. Tell that to the "masks are oxygen-depriving freedom infringem

> Changing people's minds is not easy - then or now. Shaming works way better than just talking. Tell that to the "masks are oxygen-depriving freedom infringement devices" set. I mean... I agree that on the margins most people aren't nuts and even if they don't understand masks will put one on just to avoid a scene. But... yeah, we haven't come very far, have we?

umvi 6y ago
Is there any reason we should ever stop wearing masks? From a public health perspective I think they are here to stay - possibly for the rest of my life.
- ghaff 6y ago
  There are a lot of more or less inconvenient things that people can do to improve societal safety. Never drive your car over 40 mph. Don't let subway cars get so crowded. And so forth. Arguably masks fall on the less inconvenient side of things but they're not even the norm in Asia during normal times in countries which have had their share of epidemics. So, no, I don't expect they'll be the norm most places and that will make some people unhappy.
- newacct583 6y ago
  That's the way it works in most of east asia. People who are sick, or might be sick, or have the sniffles will put a mask on when they go out. But no, no one wants to wear these full time forever. The collective danger[1] of a pandemic makes them worth the inconvenience. No one would make that trade for routine seasonal flu. [1] Which, it has to be pointed out, even on this site, and even after months of pandemic spread, is not remotely the same thing as the personal risk to the mask-wearer.
  - astrange 6y ago
    > That's the way it works in most of east asia. People who are sick, or might be sick, or have the sniffles will put a mask on when they go out. Celebrities also wear them if they don't want to be recognized, and people wear them on planes because it's thought to help with dehydration. The important thing is that it's normalized, so you don't stand out by doing it.

umvi 6y ago

Is there any reason we should ever stop wearing masks? From a public health perspective I think they are here to stay - possibly for the rest of my life.

ghaff 6y ago
There are a lot of more or less inconvenient things that people can do to improve societal safety. Never drive your car over 40 mph. Don't let subway cars get so crowded. And so forth. Arguably masks fall on the less inconvenient side of things but they're not even the norm in Asia during normal times in countries which have had their share of epidemics. So, no, I don't expect they'll be the norm most places and that will make some people unhappy.
newacct583 6y ago
That's the way it works in most of east asia. People who are sick, or might be sick, or have the sniffles will put a mask on when they go out. But no, no one wants to wear these full time forever. The collective danger[1] of a pandemic makes them worth the inconvenience. No one would make that trade for routine seasonal flu. [1] Which, it has to be pointed out, even on this site, and even after months of pandemic spread, is not remotely the same thing as the personal risk to the mask-wearer.
- astrange 6y ago
  > That's the way it works in most of east asia. People who are sick, or might be sick, or have the sniffles will put a mask on when they go out. Celebrities also wear them if they don't want to be recognized, and people wear them on planes because it's thought to help with dehydration. The important thing is that it's normalized, so you don't stand out by doing it.