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Microsoft Outlook - decade after decade the icons change but the suckage does not, its 1987 every day when you use Outlook. Microsoft Teams - drains my battery
by zxcvbn4038 6y ago
Microsoft Outlook - decade after decade the icons change but the suckage does not, its 1987 every day when you use Outlook.
Microsoft Teams - drains my battery 1% every two minutes
Slack - the original “let’s forget everything we’ve learned about communications and try to discover it again”. From the threads feature nobody wants to the inability to silence bots or plugins, Slack never fails to disappoint. They pitch it as a knowledge archiving tool but unless you know exactly where, when, and who said something good luck finding it.
G-Suite has been awesome for almost five years now, though it can be problematic when you need to communicate with people outside your org that don’t use g-suite for work. Hangouts drains my battery fairly aggressively also but not as much as Teams, so I’ve switched to Zoom for video - plus it works seamlessly reguardless of which email program people use.
- pavel_lishin 6y agoFor what it's worth, I love threads. Prior to threads, channels would be pure noise, often intertwining multiple conversations at once.
- markus92 6y agoThey’re not done well in slack if you’re not looking for them! The default reply in a channel is not in a thread, so you get people replying inside the thread and outside at the same time. Makes them feel pointless.
- vladvasiliu 6y agoI've never used Slack, but it sounds like that's how they are implemented in Teams. If that's the case, I think the problem is one of clarity for the user. I see people replying all the time in what they expect to be the reply box. I'm not sure it's clear for them that the messages they see are actually threads and should reply "to the message" instead of just typing in the bottom box.
- Trasmatta 6y agoThreads are good, the Slack implementation is still lacking though. They really need the ability to subscribe to a thread without commenting in it.
- woobar 6y agoThey have "Follow Thread" (You'll be notified about new replies)
- Trasmatta 6y agoAhh I never noticed that. Not sure if it's new or if I've just been blind.
- mattbk1 6y agoOr at least allowing people to have the mod/admin privilege of moving messages from one thread to another (or one channel to another). This is basic message board stuff, but not allowed.
- nikisweeting 6y agoZulip has absolutely nailed threads imo, it's almost like a cross between a forum like Discourse and real-time chat, with the best of both.
- nabaraz 6y agoOn Slack, I bang my head everytime their link editor pops up. I paste a link and now want to edit it, why is it so hard?
- philipwhiuk 6y ago"They pitch it as a knowledge archiving tool but unless you know exactly where, when, and who said something good luck finding it." Really? That's the pitch? That's hillarious. That's absolutely not what I would have said it was good at.
- cjmcqueen 6y agoThe only thing worse than Outlook is Outlook on Mac. So much wrong and terrible interaction. I've been on it a year at a new role and it baffles me how had it is to use.
- johnwalkr 6y ago“New outlook” on “insider fast channel” update settings has gotten pretty good in the last few months.
- wasyl 6y agoIt's amazing how bad Slack got. Android app looks slick and the UX is awesome, but functional bugs make up for it: last week I had all _my_ messages disappear from a conversation, I could only see what the other person wrote. I routinely have to force-close and reopen the app to have it show new messages. And for couple of months now, smileys typed in the app (e.g. `:)`) don't convert to actual emojis when sent. Support responded recently along the lines that "it should be fixed now because nobody complains anymore". Well it isn't, apparently sending a smiley to try and reproduce the issue is too much of an effort.
- filoeleven 6y agoI would LOVE to use Outlook. I’m sure I’d love other mail clients even more; it’s just that we use Lotus Notes.
- sk5t 6y agoThe Notes ("Domino") server comes with an IMAP "task" in the Notes parlance; maybe your admin has allowed that to run? It was always kind of funny that the thing Notes was the worst at--being a mail client--was also its primary function at a lot of organizations.
- filoeleven 6y agoThere is a web client we can use; I forgot about that until you mentioned IMAP. If it’s got sane text editing and an OK calendar, I might be able to switch to it. I was taken aback when I first found out the Notes client app is a customized Eclipse build.
- sk5t 6y agoI remember Domino Web Access as being kind of okay, but weird, and never a credible challenger to Outlook. It emerged around the time I had less and less exposure to Notes things; there was also a sort of minified, desktop Notes/Domino server ("DOLS") that could replicate web apps locally for offline use and synchronize when back online. Wild stuff! As for Eclipse, it's more like IBM found a way to wedge Notes (written in C) into an Eclipse wrapper, likely fueled by the early-aughts mania to make everything a portal/portlet. Some other apps have used Eclipse as a host, DBeaver for example. Although I believe DBeaver is principally written in Java.