For k8s, we have been leveraging some cloud solutions. Working with govt agencies, it's been a difficult push. At least with k8s, we can do internal, cloud and

For k8s, we have been leveraging some cloud solutions. Working with govt agencies, it's been a difficult push. At least with k8s, we can do internal, cloud and hybrid models depending on application and client needs. Moving away from bespoke applications deployments has helped a lot.