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The "right-leaning army" is just toll-paying to try and make this go away. Aside from Warren, the right is where the anti-trust charges are coming from. It's l

The "right-leaning army" is just toll-paying to try and make this go away. Aside from Warren, the right is where the anti-trust charges are coming from. It's like getting pulled over in a small town -- you pay a lot into the local economy to make the ticket disappear.

rayiner 6y ago
No, "breaking up big tech" fits squarely into the left's anti-corporate narrative: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-tech-factbox/where-us-presidential-candidates-stand-on-breaking-up-big-tech-idUSKBN1ZN16C https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-tech-factbox... > Biden slammed big tech companies in a January interview with the New York Times, saying he had “never been a fan of Facebook” and arguing that online platforms should not be allowed immunity for content posted by users. > Warren is leading the charge to break up big tech companies on the grounds they hold outsized influence and stifle competition. > Sanders, who frequently criticizes corporate influence, has also called for the breakup of big tech companies such as Facebook and Amazon. Make no mistake, this isn't the Clintons' party anymore (or it won't be for much longer). The young blood hates business and corporations and is pulling the whole party in that direction.
- busterarm 6y ago
  And Warren, whom I specifically mentioned, is the only one of those with both the right political office and sufficient motivation to see through doing something about it. Sanders hasn't gotten anything meaningful done as a legislator for pretty much his whole career and Biden at this point will say anything that his handlers put in front of him. As for your comment about it being in their narrative, don't forget: https://theintercept.com/2016/04/22/googles-remarkably-close-relationship-with-the-obama-white-house-in-two-charts/ https://theintercept.com/2016/04/22/googles-remarkably-close...
  - rayiner 6y ago
    The question is will President Biden act on anything that his handlers put in front of him.
    - busterarm 6y ago
      Given the opposing positions that he still firmly holds with regard to prisons and drug crime legislation (mostly that he championed), signs point to no.
      - rayiner 6y ago
        Biden triangulates on those issues because older black and hispanic voters (who are a key part of his base) have fairly law-and-order views on that front. (Contrast what protestors are saying with what the mayors of Baltimore and Atlanta are saying.) Biden has a lot more room to appease the left on economic issues without causing reduced enthusiasm among his base. The question is: how much power do you think Jamie Dimon/Mike Bloomberg Democrats have in the party going forward? Are you going to bet your share price on it?
        busterarm 6y ago
        The wind is firmly blowing the other way nationally though. On both sides of the political aisle. It's unlikely that his handlers share the political opinions of his base, which was my point. It's also not where they're spending their campaign dollars. They assume his base is on lock (and judging from my social media filter-bubble, which is 90% middle-aged & older black and hispanic male voters, I can assure you it's not). He's a say one thing and do another kind of guy. As for the power of Mike Bloomberg Democrats, well...politics runs on money.
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- brandonmenc 6y ago
  > "breaking up big tech" fits squarely into the left's anti-corporate narrative True but, (anecdotally) a growing number of my center and right-leaning acquaintances are warming to the idea of breaking up and/or (at least partly) nationalizing parts of the economy - particularly big tech - because we appear to be in a cold - potentially hot - war with China. imo this idea is going to be coming from the right more frequently in the near future.
  - rayiner 6y ago
    That's fair. The social conservatives and Tucker Carlson nationalists are getting wobbly on that front for sure.

rayiner 6y ago

No, "breaking up big tech" fits squarely into the left's anti-corporate narrative: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-tech-factbox/where-us-presidential-candidates-stand-on-breaking-up-big-tech-idUSKBN1ZN16C https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-tech-factbox... > Biden slammed big tech companies in a January interview with the New York Times, saying he had “never been a fan of Facebook” and arguing that online platforms should not be allowed immunity for content posted by users. > Warren is leading the charge to break up big tech companies on the grounds they hold outsized influence and stifle competition. > Sanders, who frequently criticizes corporate influence, has also called for the breakup of big tech companies such as Facebook and Amazon. Make no mistake, this isn't the Clintons' party anymore (or it won't be for much longer). The young blood hates business and corporations and is pulling the whole party in that direction.

busterarm 6y ago
And Warren, whom I specifically mentioned, is the only one of those with both the right political office and sufficient motivation to see through doing something about it. Sanders hasn't gotten anything meaningful done as a legislator for pretty much his whole career and Biden at this point will say anything that his handlers put in front of him. As for your comment about it being in their narrative, don't forget: https://theintercept.com/2016/04/22/googles-remarkably-close-relationship-with-the-obama-white-house-in-two-charts/ https://theintercept.com/2016/04/22/googles-remarkably-close...
- rayiner 6y ago
  The question is will President Biden act on anything that his handlers put in front of him.
  - busterarm 6y ago
    Given the opposing positions that he still firmly holds with regard to prisons and drug crime legislation (mostly that he championed), signs point to no.
    - rayiner 6y ago
      Biden triangulates on those issues because older black and hispanic voters (who are a key part of his base) have fairly law-and-order views on that front. (Contrast what protestors are saying with what the mayors of Baltimore and Atlanta are saying.) Biden has a lot more room to appease the left on economic issues without causing reduced enthusiasm among his base. The question is: how much power do you think Jamie Dimon/Mike Bloomberg Democrats have in the party going forward? Are you going to bet your share price on it?
      - busterarm 6y ago
        The wind is firmly blowing the other way nationally though. On both sides of the political aisle. It's unlikely that his handlers share the political opinions of his base, which was my point. It's also not where they're spending their campaign dollars. They assume his base is on lock (and judging from my social media filter-bubble, which is 90% middle-aged & older black and hispanic male voters, I can assure you it's not). He's a say one thing and do another kind of guy. As for the power of Mike Bloomberg Democrats, well...politics runs on money.
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brandonmenc 6y ago
> "breaking up big tech" fits squarely into the left's anti-corporate narrative True but, (anecdotally) a growing number of my center and right-leaning acquaintances are warming to the idea of breaking up and/or (at least partly) nationalizing parts of the economy - particularly big tech - because we appear to be in a cold - potentially hot - war with China. imo this idea is going to be coming from the right more frequently in the near future.
- rayiner 6y ago
  That's fair. The social conservatives and Tucker Carlson nationalists are getting wobbly on that front for sure.