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A few months ago, it was apparently the opposite. https://financialpost.com/commodities/agriculture/we-are-drinking-too-much-coffee-at-home-and-now-theres-a-mad

by ksaj 6y ago

A few months ago, it was apparently the opposite. https://financialpost.com/commodities/agriculture/we-are-drinking-too-much-coffee-at-home-and-now-theres-a-mad-scramble-for-coffee-beans https://financialpost.com/commodities/agriculture/we-are-dri...

sp332 6y ago
Maybe people are drinking the same amount of coffee, but they had to stock up their homes in March-April and then haven't needed to refill since then.
- ksaj 6y ago
  That makes me wonder if the toilet paper industry is also seeing a short-term dip in sales because of all that hoarding earlier this year.
  - antisthenes 6y ago
    Different industries see regular ups and downs throughout the year anyway. Summer, for example, is generally considered a slow season, because many people are travelling and spending time outside, less time shopping.
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  - Larrikin 6y ago
    Its annoying how there was pretty much no toilet paper to be found for months with a massive stock pile of paper towels everywhere and now its the opposite. I stock up on toilet paper and paper towels at regular intervals and was lucky to only barely begin running out once stores started getting toilet paper again but there seems to be no paper towels anywhere now.
    - ci5er 6y ago
      I moved into a "new" apartment just over two years ago, and ordered TP on Amazon. 24 or 36 rolls or something. I fat-fingered the "Add to Cart" volume button, and got like 4x36 rolls. I'm a single guy - so I accidentally stocked up in advance! (I am not even half way through two+ years later - happy accident, in retrospect!)
    - save_ferris 6y ago
      FWIW, major grocers like HEB spent months planning and simulating the effects of the pandemic before it hit the US and still didn't see the run on toilet paper coming.[0] 0: https://www.texasmonthly.com/food/heb-prepared-coronavirus-pandemic/ https://www.texasmonthly.com/food/heb-prepared-coronavirus-p...
      - pstrateman 6y ago
        Clearly they didn't read their history books. King of the hill predicted the TP apocalypse for y2k. https://kingofthehill.fandom.com/wiki/Hillennium https://kingofthehill.fandom.com/wiki/Hillennium
      - bsder 6y ago
        The "press" also causes active damage in these kinds of situations. "<X> shortage in stores" in the news will immediately cause a run on said <X> thus creating the shortage even if it didn't exist before.
        save_ferris 6y ago
        So you're arguing that the press should self-censor in this situation? Their job is to report the news in factual and objective manner, not ensure that everyone has enough toilet paper. If the latter isn't true, how do you blame the press for "active damage" in this situation?
        bsder 6y ago
        > Their job is to report the news in factual and objective manner, not ensure that everyone has enough toilet paper. The job of the press is to inform the public--not yell "Fire!" in a crowded theatre. Yes, they should have self-censored. Shouting "Covid causing shortage of bottled water--News 6 reports!" does nothing to inform the public nor does it create a useful call to action. It only creates a problem--often where none previously existed. There was ZERO reason to believe that Covid would cause a water system failure or contamination. This is different from "Hurricane incoming. Stock up on water. Here are the places which still have it." The information is useful, timely, and relevant. Having the free speech protection of being the press does not absolve the press of the responsibility to not be a jerk.
  - netsharc 6y ago
    Apparently industrial (enterprise? hahaha) toilet paper is different to home ones, and they couldn't just route for-office TP to retail. Although I heard this on a podcast which didn't cite any sources. The shittiest (ha) TPs are the ones where the buyer cheaps out, i.e the one you found in every AirBnB on the planet (when AirBnB was still a thing)...
    - pkroll 6y ago
      The TP at my place of work was (probably still is but I've not been there in months) Angel Soft... which is sold in a giant box by Staples. And that's the only place I could get it from, early on when TP became a unicorn. It is, frankly, horrible, and now I have half a box of nasty TP and more recent, decent TP of various kinds. I do not recommend Angel Soft unless "falls apart like it was formed from loosely collected glitter" is a plus for you.
boomboomsubban 6y ago
I imagine the spike was caused by individuals suddenly purchasing more coffee before the major companies could alter their long term orders. Plus the pandemic likely caused some issues in the supply line. That article even predicts that eventually demand would drop as restaurants closed.

by ksaj 6y ago

sp332 6y ago

Maybe people are drinking the same amount of coffee, but they had to stock up their homes in March-April and then haven't needed to refill since then.

ksaj 6y ago
That makes me wonder if the toilet paper industry is also seeing a short-term dip in sales because of all that hoarding earlier this year.
- antisthenes 6y ago
  Different industries see regular ups and downs throughout the year anyway. Summer, for example, is generally considered a slow season, because many people are travelling and spending time outside, less time shopping.
- deleted 6y ago
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- Larrikin 6y ago
  Its annoying how there was pretty much no toilet paper to be found for months with a massive stock pile of paper towels everywhere and now its the opposite. I stock up on toilet paper and paper towels at regular intervals and was lucky to only barely begin running out once stores started getting toilet paper again but there seems to be no paper towels anywhere now.
  - ci5er 6y ago
    I moved into a "new" apartment just over two years ago, and ordered TP on Amazon. 24 or 36 rolls or something. I fat-fingered the "Add to Cart" volume button, and got like 4x36 rolls. I'm a single guy - so I accidentally stocked up in advance! (I am not even half way through two+ years later - happy accident, in retrospect!)
  - save_ferris 6y ago
    FWIW, major grocers like HEB spent months planning and simulating the effects of the pandemic before it hit the US and still didn't see the run on toilet paper coming.[0] 0: https://www.texasmonthly.com/food/heb-prepared-coronavirus-pandemic/ https://www.texasmonthly.com/food/heb-prepared-coronavirus-p...
    - pstrateman 6y ago
      Clearly they didn't read their history books. King of the hill predicted the TP apocalypse for y2k. https://kingofthehill.fandom.com/wiki/Hillennium https://kingofthehill.fandom.com/wiki/Hillennium
    - bsder 6y ago
      The "press" also causes active damage in these kinds of situations. "<X> shortage in stores" in the news will immediately cause a run on said <X> thus creating the shortage even if it didn't exist before.
      - save_ferris 6y ago
        So you're arguing that the press should self-censor in this situation? Their job is to report the news in factual and objective manner, not ensure that everyone has enough toilet paper. If the latter isn't true, how do you blame the press for "active damage" in this situation?
        bsder 6y ago
        > Their job is to report the news in factual and objective manner, not ensure that everyone has enough toilet paper. The job of the press is to inform the public--not yell "Fire!" in a crowded theatre. Yes, they should have self-censored. Shouting "Covid causing shortage of bottled water--News 6 reports!" does nothing to inform the public nor does it create a useful call to action. It only creates a problem--often where none previously existed. There was ZERO reason to believe that Covid would cause a water system failure or contamination. This is different from "Hurricane incoming. Stock up on water. Here are the places which still have it." The information is useful, timely, and relevant. Having the free speech protection of being the press does not absolve the press of the responsibility to not be a jerk.
- netsharc 6y ago
  Apparently industrial (enterprise? hahaha) toilet paper is different to home ones, and they couldn't just route for-office TP to retail. Although I heard this on a podcast which didn't cite any sources. The shittiest (ha) TPs are the ones where the buyer cheaps out, i.e the one you found in every AirBnB on the planet (when AirBnB was still a thing)...
  - pkroll 6y ago
    The TP at my place of work was (probably still is but I've not been there in months) Angel Soft... which is sold in a giant box by Staples. And that's the only place I could get it from, early on when TP became a unicorn. It is, frankly, horrible, and now I have half a box of nasty TP and more recent, decent TP of various kinds. I do not recommend Angel Soft unless "falls apart like it was formed from loosely collected glitter" is a plus for you.

boomboomsubban 6y ago

I imagine the spike was caused by individuals suddenly purchasing more coffee before the major companies could alter their long term orders. Plus the pandemic likely caused some issues in the supply line. That article even predicts that eventually demand would drop as restaurants closed.