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> It hasn't had a chance to impact the secondhand market yet. I do think we're talking about different secondhand markets--or at least different large sections

by pfranz 6y ago

> It hasn't had a chance to impact the secondhand market yet. I do think we're talking about different secondhand markets--or at least different large sections of it. Buying/selling working Macs aren't affected. That's the only one I've ever dealt with. I do think I was wrong above about non-working Macs--I do think there will be no resale value if they had a T2 chip. > I find the "theft" argument very hard to swallow... Multiple cities cited 25-35% drop when activation locks were rolled out. Personally, I've only had iPhones stolen before this. I do think most are crimes of opportunity, but a large chunk, especially if they're stealing multiple phones, know how they're going to unload them. But, I don't think this T2 repair thing is relevant. I don't imagine thieves parting off stolen phones because it's not worth it. Even organized crime. I do agree Apple has misrepresented the situation and right to repair is one of the few topics I write to my representatives about.

Wingman4l7 6y ago
The secondhand market I'm referring to is not one-to-one personal sales, but recyclers / refurbishers dealing with donated devices. It's already a huge issue with Apple products. Thousands of perfectly good working iPhones and iPads are not removed from iCloud accounts (either through a lack of consumer education -- resetting a device does NOT do this -- or it being too resource-intensive on the enterprise level) and the activation lock renders them worthless e-waste. This is what is going to happen to T2 chip Apple laptops. Agreed, thieves aren't parting off stolen phones. I was referring primarily to unattended property theft (car break-ins, theft from public spaces, etc.) not muggings. Probably depends on what is driving the crime.