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There are things called dumplings that don't have a filling. Both sweet and savoury. Eg Golden Syrup Dumplings, and what we call a British or Irish Dumpling se

There are things called dumplings that don't have a filling. Both sweet and savoury. Eg Golden Syrup Dumplings, and what we call a British or Irish Dumpling served atop a stew. We also called Spätzle 'dumplings', too, and usually served with a Austrian/Hungarian style goulash. I think the key differentiator from pasta is that they're a thicker item rather than thin-walled tubes/shapes or strands.

rswail 6y ago
If Spätzle are dumplings, then so are gnocchi. Fight me!
- brirec 6y ago
  Both are dumplings.
- 082349872349872 6y ago
  TFA has gnocchi and matzo balls, so I think spätzle ought to be admissible as 0-dumplings (where a filled dumpling is a 1-dumpling). Proper dumplings would then be those dumplings with at least one layer of filling. Are there any 2-dumplings or higher, the dumpling equivalent of turducken? (future work: classification of dumplings with handles, immersions of Klein Dumplings in cooking oil, ...)
  - Scarblac 6y ago
    In the North of the Netherlands, there exists the _eierbal_ - a hard boiled egg, with a layer of ragout, and then a crust. Then deep fried. I love that I can mention it and be on topic on HN. I now live in the middle of the country and miss it.
- dmurray 6y ago
  How about lasagne?
  - raywu 6y ago
    Oh for sure. Lasagnas are deconstructed dumplings in disguise.
    - Agathos 6y ago
      How thick does the breading have to be before fried chicken is a dumpling?
      - raywu 6y ago
        That’s an amazing concept. If samosa is a dumpling we can make fried chicken dumplings work
laumars 6y ago
> and what we call a British or Irish Dumpling served atop a stew. The other name for them for them has since become a slur: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faggot_(food) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faggot_(food) According to Wikipedia, Beef Wellington and pasties are classed as a dumplings too, which I find surprising: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dumplings https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dumplings They’re certainly not colloquially thought of as dumplings.
eru 6y ago
Yes, dumplings don't need a fillings. But Spätzle are usually too thin to be called dumplings in my understanding. I'd call them a kind of noodle or pasta. Wikipedia, the final arbiter of all truth, agrees. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sp%C3%A4tzle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sp%C3%A4tzle

rswail 6y ago

If Spätzle are dumplings, then so are gnocchi. Fight me!

brirec 6y ago
Both are dumplings.
082349872349872 6y ago
TFA has gnocchi and matzo balls, so I think spätzle ought to be admissible as 0-dumplings (where a filled dumpling is a 1-dumpling). Proper dumplings would then be those dumplings with at least one layer of filling. Are there any 2-dumplings or higher, the dumpling equivalent of turducken? (future work: classification of dumplings with handles, immersions of Klein Dumplings in cooking oil, ...)
- Scarblac 6y ago
  In the North of the Netherlands, there exists the _eierbal_ - a hard boiled egg, with a layer of ragout, and then a crust. Then deep fried. I love that I can mention it and be on topic on HN. I now live in the middle of the country and miss it.
dmurray 6y ago
How about lasagne?
- raywu 6y ago
  Oh for sure. Lasagnas are deconstructed dumplings in disguise.
  - Agathos 6y ago
    How thick does the breading have to be before fried chicken is a dumpling?
    - raywu 6y ago
      That’s an amazing concept. If samosa is a dumpling we can make fried chicken dumplings work

laumars 6y ago

> and what we call a British or Irish Dumpling served atop a stew. The other name for them for them has since become a slur: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faggot_(food) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faggot_(food) According to Wikipedia, Beef Wellington and pasties are classed as a dumplings too, which I find surprising: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dumplings https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dumplings They’re certainly not colloquially thought of as dumplings.

eru 6y ago

Yes, dumplings don't need a fillings. But Spätzle are usually too thin to be called dumplings in my understanding. I'd call them a kind of noodle or pasta. Wikipedia, the final arbiter of all truth, agrees. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sp%C3%A4tzle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sp%C3%A4tzle