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Just because it is speech, doesn't mean it is right. As people like to say, our speech does have consequences. We should be aware of what those consequences ar

Just because it is speech, doesn't mean it is right. As people like to say, our speech does have consequences. We should be aware of what those consequences are. Take for example, the young man who was fired because he was cracking his knuckles. No one did anything illegal, and yet an injustice was performed. The person who took the photo claimed they didn't want the guy did, yet what did they expect? what was the point of posting the photo? Even if the young man was flashing the WP sign, so what? If he hasn't done anything else that was heinous, there is no need to speak up. We should be encouraging speech, not discoyraging it. "I may dislike what you have to say, but I will fight for your right to say it." Not "I dislike what you have to say, so I will do everything in my power to shut you up "

imustbeevil 6y ago
It goes both ways. People have just as much right to post "cancel" posts as they do to post the kinds of posts that get "cancelled". Society chooses how to react. No one is losing their job because they got caught calling someone out for being racist or sexist. If people actually go too far, or lie about their allegations, they're at just as much risk of having the tide turn against them. This is already built into the system.
- skinkestek 6y ago
  > No one is losing their job because they got caught calling someone out for being racist or sexist. A bit on the side: Maybe it would help a good deal if people started losing their jobs for clearly false allegations and for not protecting people they are responsible for? Like: - if we conservatives got together to pressure whoever employees that person who posted the picture of the Mexican truck driver with his hand out the window and made that persons life a mess: after all it was clearly wrong as admitted by that person him/herself. - next up: shaming the company who fired him over cracking his knuckles until they fire whoever was responsible for this. After all we white males are the powerful privileged ones arent we? Obviously (hopefully) I don't want this, I only want to get people on both sides thinking.
  - imustbeevil 6y ago
    > Maybe it would help a good deal if people started losing their jobs for clearly false allegations and for not protecting people they are responsible for? I totally agree (with at least this part) and mentioned that in my post. If someone sent my boss a picture of me buying Chik-Fil-A and he asked if I was supporting anti-gay companies I'd say no I just like the taste of Chik-Fil-A. If people are actually getting fired for things like that, or buying Goya beans, or having something untrue claimed, I would certainly hope most bosses would ask the person about it before indiscriminately firing them. In some cases that may not be happening, but I would argue that anywhere firing people for such small things was probably looking to fire that person anyway (to say nothing about the "not small" things like the guy screaming obscenities at the asian family a few days ago, or all of these people going crazy about having to wear masks). That's why you don't see most people getting fired.

imustbeevil 6y ago

It goes both ways. People have just as much right to post "cancel" posts as they do to post the kinds of posts that get "cancelled". Society chooses how to react. No one is losing their job because they got caught calling someone out for being racist or sexist. If people actually go too far, or lie about their allegations, they're at just as much risk of having the tide turn against them. This is already built into the system.

skinkestek 6y ago
> No one is losing their job because they got caught calling someone out for being racist or sexist. A bit on the side: Maybe it would help a good deal if people started losing their jobs for clearly false allegations and for not protecting people they are responsible for? Like: - if we conservatives got together to pressure whoever employees that person who posted the picture of the Mexican truck driver with his hand out the window and made that persons life a mess: after all it was clearly wrong as admitted by that person him/herself. - next up: shaming the company who fired him over cracking his knuckles until they fire whoever was responsible for this. After all we white males are the powerful privileged ones arent we? Obviously (hopefully) I don't want this, I only want to get people on both sides thinking.
- imustbeevil 6y ago
  > Maybe it would help a good deal if people started losing their jobs for clearly false allegations and for not protecting people they are responsible for? I totally agree (with at least this part) and mentioned that in my post. If someone sent my boss a picture of me buying Chik-Fil-A and he asked if I was supporting anti-gay companies I'd say no I just like the taste of Chik-Fil-A. If people are actually getting fired for things like that, or buying Goya beans, or having something untrue claimed, I would certainly hope most bosses would ask the person about it before indiscriminately firing them. In some cases that may not be happening, but I would argue that anywhere firing people for such small things was probably looking to fire that person anyway (to say nothing about the "not small" things like the guy screaming obscenities at the asian family a few days ago, or all of these people going crazy about having to wear masks). That's why you don't see most people getting fired.