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No matter what your preference, sabotaging a desktop environment by calling `exit();` is certainly not the way to go: you're only hurting your users.

jolmg 6y ago
It's not sabotaging. It's removing support.
- mumblemumble 6y ago
  Back in the day, that's roughly how web developers would frame it when they tried to rationalize making websites that would deliberately refuse to load if the user-agent said something other than "MSIE". Removing support is a passive action; you accomplish it by just doing nothing. Calling exit() is rather more on the aggressive side. All that said, good on 'em. I got a decent chuckle.
  - NewEntryHN 6y ago
    > Removing support is a passive action; you accomplish it by just doing nothing. Calling exit() is rather more on the aggressive side. It's more graceful than the program exiting in a bad way because you passively decided to stop support.
phloximaxi 6y ago
Maybe. But, he calmed down, and corrected his mistake after some rethinking. And what about gnome and gnome devs?
- qalmakka 6y ago
  They spent the last 9 years dismantling their platform one piece at a time. I think they are too committed with their design now to admit they completely screwed up by betting on a vision it never managed to take off, and differently than Microsoft, they don't need to actually listen to their users because they don't have enterprise users they really need to sell their product to (but Red Hat does, and that's why "Gnome Classic" is still around).
CJefferson 6y ago
Except, if the vast majority of your bug reports come from that Desktop Environment, and noone wants to step up and support it, this might be the best option. I've worked on projects where I have wanted to do similar things, just refuse to work on systems i know are buggy and I do not have the time to fix.
SimilarGeneral1 6y ago
> I use GNOME Wayland and I have x/y/z problem! https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/wiki/FAQ#i-use-gnome-wayland-and-i-have-xyz-problem https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/wiki/FAQ#i-use-gnome-wayla... > Is GNOME actively sabotaging the Linux Desktop? https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/wiki/FAQ#Is_GNOME_actively_sabotaging_the_Linux_Desktop https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/wiki/FAQ#Is_GNOME_actively...
Wowfunhappy 6y ago
Apparently mpv reached the same conclusion, since they took that out and replaced it with a warning. I agree too. At minimum there should be a launch flag (e.g. -allowGnome) so users don't need to outright recompile the app.

jolmg 6y ago

It's not sabotaging. It's removing support.

mumblemumble 6y ago
Back in the day, that's roughly how web developers would frame it when they tried to rationalize making websites that would deliberately refuse to load if the user-agent said something other than "MSIE". Removing support is a passive action; you accomplish it by just doing nothing. Calling exit() is rather more on the aggressive side. All that said, good on 'em. I got a decent chuckle.
- NewEntryHN 6y ago
  > Removing support is a passive action; you accomplish it by just doing nothing. Calling exit() is rather more on the aggressive side. It's more graceful than the program exiting in a bad way because you passively decided to stop support.

phloximaxi 6y ago

Maybe. But, he calmed down, and corrected his mistake after some rethinking. And what about gnome and gnome devs?

qalmakka 6y ago
They spent the last 9 years dismantling their platform one piece at a time. I think they are too committed with their design now to admit they completely screwed up by betting on a vision it never managed to take off, and differently than Microsoft, they don't need to actually listen to their users because they don't have enterprise users they really need to sell their product to (but Red Hat does, and that's why "Gnome Classic" is still around).

CJefferson 6y ago

Except, if the vast majority of your bug reports come from that Desktop Environment, and noone wants to step up and support it, this might be the best option. I've worked on projects where I have wanted to do similar things, just refuse to work on systems i know are buggy and I do not have the time to fix.

SimilarGeneral1 6y ago

> I use GNOME Wayland and I have x/y/z problem! https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/wiki/FAQ#i-use-gnome-wayland-and-i-have-xyz-problem https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/wiki/FAQ#i-use-gnome-wayla... > Is GNOME actively sabotaging the Linux Desktop? https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/wiki/FAQ#Is_GNOME_actively_sabotaging_the_Linux_Desktop https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/wiki/FAQ#Is_GNOME_actively...

Wowfunhappy 6y ago

Apparently mpv reached the same conclusion, since they took that out and replaced it with a warning. I agree too. At minimum there should be a launch flag (e.g. -allowGnome) so users don't need to outright recompile the app.