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If you think zsh to cmd is a regression you should try out bash. It's vastly superior to zsh in literally every regard. If you still aren't stratified use fish.

If you think zsh to cmd is a regression you should try out bash. It's vastly superior to zsh in literally every regard. If you still aren't stratified use fish. Genuinely never got how people use zsh. It's the slowest and clunkiest shell I've ever witnessed it's fucking slower than most electron gui software.

Natfan 6y ago
Personally I've found zsh's features to massively outweigh it's "slowness" (although I haven't really noticed zsh as "slow", per se) `esc, esc` to prefix the line with `sudo`, better tab completion (both the navigatable UI with arrow keys, along with the intelligent tab completion (I type in "./llo" and it finds the file "./helloworld.sh")), combined with the massive amounts of customization and modules you can install makes it a shell killer. The only shell I've found that I like more is Windows' Powershell, however that's mostly because I __love__ the Powershell language and syntax. However I will admit that almost all of what I just complimented is part of oh-my-zsh, which is a community add-on for zsh which makes the experience so much nicer. In my time I've used bash, csh, pwsh and zsh and if I could, I'd always use zsh for termanal interactivity and pwsh (Powershell on Linux) for scripts.
divs1210 6y ago
zsh + oh-my-zsh is a hassle-free batteries-included power-tool with a large community and lots of plugins. I don't use my shell for intensive computing so I've personally never perceived any slowness or clunkiness.
minerjoe 6y ago
Hmm. Curious. How is it slow for you? I switched about a year ago to see what all the fuss was about and piled on as many addons as I could and yes it was slow - to start, but not to use. Which, if you like to pop up new terminals all the time, defintely is annoying. I then pruned it down to what I actually used and got the startup to less than a second, which is just fine for me as the benefits greatly outweight the little blip. No noticable slowness, except for that initial startup. And this is all on a circa 2008 Thinkpad clocking in at 1.8Ghz.

Natfan 6y ago

Personally I've found zsh's features to massively outweigh it's "slowness" (although I haven't really noticed zsh as "slow", per se) `esc, esc` to prefix the line with `sudo`, better tab completion (both the navigatable UI with arrow keys, along with the intelligent tab completion (I type in "./llo" and it finds the file "./helloworld.sh")), combined with the massive amounts of customization and modules you can install makes it a shell killer. The only shell I've found that I like more is Windows' Powershell, however that's mostly because I __love__ the Powershell language and syntax. However I will admit that almost all of what I just complimented is part of oh-my-zsh, which is a community add-on for zsh which makes the experience so much nicer. In my time I've used bash, csh, pwsh and zsh and if I could, I'd always use zsh for termanal interactivity and pwsh (Powershell on Linux) for scripts.

divs1210 6y ago

zsh + oh-my-zsh is a hassle-free batteries-included power-tool with a large community and lots of plugins. I don't use my shell for intensive computing so I've personally never perceived any slowness or clunkiness.

minerjoe 6y ago

Hmm. Curious. How is it slow for you? I switched about a year ago to see what all the fuss was about and piled on as many addons as I could and yes it was slow - to start, but not to use. Which, if you like to pop up new terminals all the time, defintely is annoying. I then pruned it down to what I actually used and got the startup to less than a second, which is just fine for me as the benefits greatly outweight the little blip. No noticable slowness, except for that initial startup. And this is all on a circa 2008 Thinkpad clocking in at 1.8Ghz.