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Yeah, except Biden is a moderate Republican, so I doubt it. It's a neat primary rhetoric for sure.

NortySpock 6y ago
He's listed as a Democrat, though he may be to the right of where you personally want him to be. Let's not confuse the issue.
- AsyncAwait 6y ago
  DPRK is named as democratic too, is it? Is it shocking to me how many people take what people name themselves at face value. If I put F1 driver on my badge does that make me one? Obama even admitted to basically being a moderate Republican from the 80s[1], is just that the Republicans have moved so far to the right that what they used to be in the 80s is now seen as on the left. I know there's this perception of left being everywhere, but in reality it's just a bunch of college students being boosted by Jordan Peterson for his own benefit. The actual politics of the U.S. have been moving further and further to the right for decades now. 1 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=677elaGIsKU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=677elaGIsKU
- devalgo 6y ago
  The American political left/right scale is very silly on the international level. Republicans attack standard Party-Line Democrats as Socialists when in reality the vast majority of Democrats would be considered right wing in the EU and the Republican Party are more like Far Right extremists a la AfD, UKIP, etc.. Sanders himself would hardly be center-left in most EU parliaments.
  - AsyncAwait 6y ago
    Thank you. You expressed what I wanted to say better than I could.
TedDoesntTalk 6y ago
Wait, what? Biden is a moderate Republican? I’m not American, I do not understand this comment. Can you explain?
- AsyncAwait 6y ago
  Biden is a Democrat the same way DPRK is democratic. That is in name only. He is very much on the right side of the spectrum, the reason he's considered left is because the Republicans have moved so far to the right over the past several decades that you can call yourself a Democrat for being what would be considered a moderate Republican in the 80s. The policies he's for are what the Conservative Party is for in the UK.
  - jen20 6y ago
    > The policies he's for are what the Conservative Party is for in the UK. This may have been true the mid 2000s through 2015, but the Conservative Party in the UK is now dominated by the extreme right "European Research Group" (your DPRK comment is apt with regards to them), who are far more aligned with the right of the Republican party of today.
    - AsyncAwait 6y ago
      Point taken, but even if you look at the Tory party under DC, it was clearly a right-wing party. Not extreme right, but very firmly right. That is the philosophy that Biden represents. My problem is with the American definition of left/right where somebody like Biden/Obama gets called a socialist. That's insane since by international standards they're not even left-wing.
scarface74 6y ago
It doesn’t matter what his policies are. The greatest power a President has that affects policy long after he is gone is his ability to nominate judges with lifetime appointments.
- snowwrestler 6y ago
  I hear this all the time but I have to say I have not seen actual data that supports it. To take perhaps the highest-profile issue when it comes to judges: access to abortion remains federally protected today despite the last 5 Republicans promising to nominate judges to reverse that.
  - devalgo 6y ago
    If RBG had retired or passed away before the recent abortion case, Roe v Wade would almost certainly have been overturned fully or partially a few days ago. The court voted 5-4 to uphold and whatever hyperconservative federalist society nutjob Trump would have nominated to replace her would virtually have guaranteed the opposite result. Abortion isn't the only relevant case that the court could overturn, we have decisions like Citizens United that have essentially gutted the political process for a generation and in the past few days the courts have handed massive wins to Churches and conservatives that allow them to discriminate freely. To pretend the courts don't have massive power to dictate daily life in the US seems to be denying obvious truths. https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/04/supreme-court-decision-in-louisiana-case-sets-back-abortion-foes.html https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/04/supreme-court-decision-in-lo...
  - scarface74 6y ago
    And that’s only because there have consistently been a majority of liberal judges. Just this term they made decisions both forcing states to fund religious schools if they find secular private schools and in a separate decision, said that religious institutions have the right to discriminate. Now we have a condition where my taxes must pay for people who could conceivably discriminate against me.

He's listed as a Democrat, though he may be to the right of where you personally want him to be. Let's not confuse the issue.

AsyncAwait 6y ago
DPRK is named as democratic too, is it? Is it shocking to me how many people take what people name themselves at face value. If I put F1 driver on my badge does that make me one? Obama even admitted to basically being a moderate Republican from the 80s[1], is just that the Republicans have moved so far to the right that what they used to be in the 80s is now seen as on the left. I know there's this perception of left being everywhere, but in reality it's just a bunch of college students being boosted by Jordan Peterson for his own benefit. The actual politics of the U.S. have been moving further and further to the right for decades now. 1 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=677elaGIsKU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=677elaGIsKU
devalgo 6y ago
The American political left/right scale is very silly on the international level. Republicans attack standard Party-Line Democrats as Socialists when in reality the vast majority of Democrats would be considered right wing in the EU and the Republican Party are more like Far Right extremists a la AfD, UKIP, etc.. Sanders himself would hardly be center-left in most EU parliaments.
- AsyncAwait 6y ago
  Thank you. You expressed what I wanted to say better than I could.

TedDoesntTalk 6y ago

Wait, what? Biden is a moderate Republican? I’m not American, I do not understand this comment. Can you explain?

AsyncAwait 6y ago
Biden is a Democrat the same way DPRK is democratic. That is in name only. He is very much on the right side of the spectrum, the reason he's considered left is because the Republicans have moved so far to the right over the past several decades that you can call yourself a Democrat for being what would be considered a moderate Republican in the 80s. The policies he's for are what the Conservative Party is for in the UK.
- jen20 6y ago
  > The policies he's for are what the Conservative Party is for in the UK. This may have been true the mid 2000s through 2015, but the Conservative Party in the UK is now dominated by the extreme right "European Research Group" (your DPRK comment is apt with regards to them), who are far more aligned with the right of the Republican party of today.
  - AsyncAwait 6y ago
    Point taken, but even if you look at the Tory party under DC, it was clearly a right-wing party. Not extreme right, but very firmly right. That is the philosophy that Biden represents. My problem is with the American definition of left/right where somebody like Biden/Obama gets called a socialist. That's insane since by international standards they're not even left-wing.

scarface74 6y ago

It doesn’t matter what his policies are. The greatest power a President has that affects policy long after he is gone is his ability to nominate judges with lifetime appointments.

snowwrestler 6y ago
I hear this all the time but I have to say I have not seen actual data that supports it. To take perhaps the highest-profile issue when it comes to judges: access to abortion remains federally protected today despite the last 5 Republicans promising to nominate judges to reverse that.
- devalgo 6y ago
  If RBG had retired or passed away before the recent abortion case, Roe v Wade would almost certainly have been overturned fully or partially a few days ago. The court voted 5-4 to uphold and whatever hyperconservative federalist society nutjob Trump would have nominated to replace her would virtually have guaranteed the opposite result. Abortion isn't the only relevant case that the court could overturn, we have decisions like Citizens United that have essentially gutted the political process for a generation and in the past few days the courts have handed massive wins to Churches and conservatives that allow them to discriminate freely. To pretend the courts don't have massive power to dictate daily life in the US seems to be denying obvious truths. https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/04/supreme-court-decision-in-louisiana-case-sets-back-abortion-foes.html https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/04/supreme-court-decision-in-lo...
- scarface74 6y ago
  And that’s only because there have consistently been a majority of liberal judges. Just this term they made decisions both forcing states to fund religious schools if they find secular private schools and in a separate decision, said that religious institutions have the right to discriminate. Now we have a condition where my taxes must pay for people who could conceivably discriminate against me.