Agreed. I learned Java first, and it's a hugely non-optimal choice... but I was playing the hell out of Steve Yegge's game, Wyvern (http://www.cabochon.com http

Agreed. I learned Java first, and it's a hugely non-optimal choice... but I was playing the hell out of Steve Yegge's game, Wyvern (http://www.cabochon.com http://www.cabochon.com), and it was 100% Java/Jython. As such, I had competent developers to talk to. I work 0% in Java now, of course.