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Yup, 21% plus some older stragglers. That's horrifying. W7 was released in 2009. https://www.statista.com/statistics/993868/worldwide-windows-operating-system-

Yup, 21% plus some older stragglers. That's horrifying. W7 was released in 2009. https://www.statista.com/statistics/993868/worldwide-windows-operating-system-market-share/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/993868/worldwide-windows...

forgotmypw17 6y ago
Why is it so horrifying? What's wrong with using old software, especially when it works better than the new?
- Magodo 6y ago
  Seriously! I just today pulled out a raspberry pi I bought in 2011 and was overjoyed that it booted up noobs with absolutely no issues.
- ajzinsbwbs 6y ago
  Old software is fine when you’re not running untrusted new software inside of it.
- Shared404 6y ago
  People always say that, at least until they get hit with $RANSOMWARE_OF_THE_YEAR or $RANDOM_VIRUS
  - forgotmypw17 6y ago
    I didn't realize that Windows 10 is immune to ransomware and viruses.
    - Shared404 6y ago
      Of course it's not. Nothing is. Not Win 10. Not Mac. Not Linux. Not BSD. Not Plan 9. But an up to date anything is better than Windows 7.
      - forgotmypw17 6y ago
        I think if someone's been using Windows 7 this long and not succumbed to malware, they probably know how to secure it, or just happen to have set it up in a secure fashion. If you're behind a NAT and don't browse strange websites and don't open email attachments and don't plug in strange devices, how are you going to get malwared?
        fsociety 6y ago
        Because you can’t play that game with information asymmetry. Your attack surface is too large to defend. It just depends on if you care or not.
        tpxl 6y ago
        Hello, I'm one of the dudes running Windows 7 on unsupported hardware (Ryzen 3900x, some mobo that isn't supported by W7 and modified drivers from some random Chinese dude on the internet so it actually works). I'm using it mostly to play games that don't support Linux (anti-cheat spyware, as someone nicely put it), while daily driving linux on the same machine on another HDD (can't be hit by cryptolockers because windows doesn't detect it ;) ). Windows 10 is garbage. It's a mobile OS - the "File" menu in Microsoft Word opens across the whole screen with most of it being empty space, the start menu fucking shows ads and search can't help itself but do random internet searches. Always on "Cortana" for god knows what reason that you can't turn off without editing registry (can you even do that anymore). On top of that, it's basically spyware. How can you protect yourself from malware by installing more malware?
        ta17711771 6y ago
        You can't protect your privacy by shooting holes in your security.
        tpxl 6y ago
        You can't protect your privacy by giving it away either.
nikanj 6y ago
It's been less than two months since we last ran across a large prospective customer who is still on XP. This was in the UK, and they handle highly confidential information on those computers. Supporting XP makes dollars, so supporting XP makes sense. Though it does make me want to tear my eyeballs out.

forgotmypw17 6y ago

Why is it so horrifying? What's wrong with using old software, especially when it works better than the new?

Magodo 6y ago
Seriously! I just today pulled out a raspberry pi I bought in 2011 and was overjoyed that it booted up noobs with absolutely no issues.
ajzinsbwbs 6y ago
Old software is fine when you’re not running untrusted new software inside of it.
Shared404 6y ago
People always say that, at least until they get hit with $RANSOMWARE_OF_THE_YEAR or $RANDOM_VIRUS
- forgotmypw17 6y ago
  I didn't realize that Windows 10 is immune to ransomware and viruses.
  - Shared404 6y ago
    Of course it's not. Nothing is. Not Win 10. Not Mac. Not Linux. Not BSD. Not Plan 9. But an up to date anything is better than Windows 7.
    - forgotmypw17 6y ago
      I think if someone's been using Windows 7 this long and not succumbed to malware, they probably know how to secure it, or just happen to have set it up in a secure fashion. If you're behind a NAT and don't browse strange websites and don't open email attachments and don't plug in strange devices, how are you going to get malwared?
      - fsociety 6y ago
        Because you can’t play that game with information asymmetry. Your attack surface is too large to defend. It just depends on if you care or not.
        tpxl 6y ago
        Hello, I'm one of the dudes running Windows 7 on unsupported hardware (Ryzen 3900x, some mobo that isn't supported by W7 and modified drivers from some random Chinese dude on the internet so it actually works). I'm using it mostly to play games that don't support Linux (anti-cheat spyware, as someone nicely put it), while daily driving linux on the same machine on another HDD (can't be hit by cryptolockers because windows doesn't detect it ;) ). Windows 10 is garbage. It's a mobile OS - the "File" menu in Microsoft Word opens across the whole screen with most of it being empty space, the start menu fucking shows ads and search can't help itself but do random internet searches. Always on "Cortana" for god knows what reason that you can't turn off without editing registry (can you even do that anymore). On top of that, it's basically spyware. How can you protect yourself from malware by installing more malware?
        ta17711771 6y ago
        You can't protect your privacy by shooting holes in your security.
        tpxl 6y ago
        You can't protect your privacy by giving it away either.

nikanj 6y ago

It's been less than two months since we last ran across a large prospective customer who is still on XP. This was in the UK, and they handle highly confidential information on those computers. Supporting XP makes dollars, so supporting XP makes sense. Though it does make me want to tear my eyeballs out.