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Evidence always goes back to that adrian zenz fraud. I don't believe it.

president 6y ago
With the overwhelming amount of evidence and testimony regarding human rights violations in Xinjiang, burden of proof is on the CCP to disprove. EDIT: Since HN has blocked me from posting too fast, here is my response to your reply: > It's so absurd! Not a SINGLE MUSLIM MAJORITY COUNTRY is against these supposed Xinjiang camps! Why do you think the USA suddenly cares about muslims? Use your brain. Maybe China has bought their silence? See https://www.businessinsider.com/imran-khan-pakistan-wont-criticize-china-on-uighurs-2020-1 https://www.businessinsider.com/imran-khan-pakistan-wont-cri.... UN has been bought as well. See all actions by WHO since Covid-19 started.
- geogra4 6y ago
  Why bother with Global Times? Why not go straight to the UN. Which countries support china's Xinjiang policy and which oppose? Notice which side most islamic countries are on? And which side the countries that have a muslim ban are on? https://thediplomat.com/2019/07/which-countries-are-for-or-against-chinas-xinjiang-policies/ https://thediplomat.com/2019/07/which-countries-are-for-or-a... It's so absurd! Not a single muslim majority country is against these supposed Xinjiang camps! Why do you think the USA suddenly cares about muslims?
  - dang 6y ago
    Hey, please edit out swipes like "use your brain" from your HN comments. They only make things worse. I realize that it's frustrating to represent a contrarian/minority position on the internet, but there's really only one way to do it effectively and that is to prevent the frustration from boiling over and stick to neutral information. Otherwise you just give people an additional reason to reject what you're saying, which ends up discrediting whatever truth you're advocating for. I've written about this elsewhere in case it's helpful: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=by%3Adang%20contrarian%20discredit&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... Also, please note this site guideline: Please don't use uppercase for emphasis. If you want to emphasize a word or phrase, put asterisks around it and it will get italicized. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
    - geogra4 6y ago
      yes done. Apologies.
      - dang 6y ago
        Appreciated!
CobrastanJorji 6y ago
Could you clarify what you don't believe? You don't believe that "Vocational Education and Training Centers" exist, or you don't believe that they are internment camps, or you do believe in them existing but don't believe in the scale of how many hundreds of thousands of people have been in them?
- geogra4 6y ago
  >> that "Vocational Education and Training Centers" exist Yes - they exist. Kind of like community colleges exist. >> you don't believe that they are internment camps I don't and neither do muslim majority countries all over the world including UAE, Eritrea, Sudan, Pakistan, and Algeria, among others[0] 0: https://thediplomat.com/2019/07/which-countries-are-for-or-against-chinas-xinjiang-policies/ https://thediplomat.com/2019/07/which-countries-are-for-or-a...
  - yorwba 6y ago
    >>> you don't believe that they are internment camps > I don't Why not? They're officially intended to hold and re-educate violent terrorists and extremists who have been determined to be a danger to society, among other groups. http://www.xinhuanet.com/politics/2019-03/18/c_1124247196.htm http://www.xinhuanet.com/politics/2019-03/18/c_1124247196.ht... (Search for 社会危险.) Of course they're internment camps. > muslim majority countries all over the world including UAE, Eritrea, Sudan, Pakistan, and Algeria, among others Think that interning Muslims in camps is perfectly justified by the "war on terror", and they're doing it quite often themselves. Of course they're not bothered when China does it.

With the overwhelming amount of evidence and testimony regarding human rights violations in Xinjiang, burden of proof is on the CCP to disprove. EDIT: Since HN has blocked me from posting too fast, here is my response to your reply: > It's so absurd! Not a SINGLE MUSLIM MAJORITY COUNTRY is against these supposed Xinjiang camps! Why do you think the USA suddenly cares about muslims? Use your brain. Maybe China has bought their silence? See https://www.businessinsider.com/imran-khan-pakistan-wont-criticize-china-on-uighurs-2020-1 https://www.businessinsider.com/imran-khan-pakistan-wont-cri.... UN has been bought as well. See all actions by WHO since Covid-19 started.

geogra4 6y ago
Why bother with Global Times? Why not go straight to the UN. Which countries support china's Xinjiang policy and which oppose? Notice which side most islamic countries are on? And which side the countries that have a muslim ban are on? https://thediplomat.com/2019/07/which-countries-are-for-or-against-chinas-xinjiang-policies/ https://thediplomat.com/2019/07/which-countries-are-for-or-a... It's so absurd! Not a single muslim majority country is against these supposed Xinjiang camps! Why do you think the USA suddenly cares about muslims?
- dang 6y ago
  Hey, please edit out swipes like "use your brain" from your HN comments. They only make things worse. I realize that it's frustrating to represent a contrarian/minority position on the internet, but there's really only one way to do it effectively and that is to prevent the frustration from boiling over and stick to neutral information. Otherwise you just give people an additional reason to reject what you're saying, which ends up discrediting whatever truth you're advocating for. I've written about this elsewhere in case it's helpful: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=by%3Adang%20contrarian%20discredit&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... Also, please note this site guideline: Please don't use uppercase for emphasis. If you want to emphasize a word or phrase, put asterisks around it and it will get italicized. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - geogra4 6y ago
    yes done. Apologies.
    - dang 6y ago
      Appreciated!

CobrastanJorji 6y ago

Could you clarify what you don't believe? You don't believe that "Vocational Education and Training Centers" exist, or you don't believe that they are internment camps, or you do believe in them existing but don't believe in the scale of how many hundreds of thousands of people have been in them?

geogra4 6y ago
>> that "Vocational Education and Training Centers" exist Yes - they exist. Kind of like community colleges exist. >> you don't believe that they are internment camps I don't and neither do muslim majority countries all over the world including UAE, Eritrea, Sudan, Pakistan, and Algeria, among others[0] 0: https://thediplomat.com/2019/07/which-countries-are-for-or-against-chinas-xinjiang-policies/ https://thediplomat.com/2019/07/which-countries-are-for-or-a...
- yorwba 6y ago
  >>> you don't believe that they are internment camps > I don't Why not? They're officially intended to hold and re-educate violent terrorists and extremists who have been determined to be a danger to society, among other groups. http://www.xinhuanet.com/politics/2019-03/18/c_1124247196.htm http://www.xinhuanet.com/politics/2019-03/18/c_1124247196.ht... (Search for 社会危险.) Of course they're internment camps. > muslim majority countries all over the world including UAE, Eritrea, Sudan, Pakistan, and Algeria, among others Think that interning Muslims in camps is perfectly justified by the "war on terror", and they're doing it quite often themselves. Of course they're not bothered when China does it.