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The study you linked measures a completely different thing all together. It measures psychiatric treatment over time after surgery. It makes no mention of suici

The study you linked measures a completely different thing all together. It measures psychiatric treatment over time after surgery. It makes no mention of suicide, and seems to just gloss over the fact that psychiatric treatment tends not to be sought by the dead. I also don’t think it’s a very valid criticism to dismiss the most comprehensive research on this topic to date, performed at Sweden’s largest medical research institution, as “American right-wing propaganda”.

grraaaaahhh 6y ago
>I also don’t think it’s a very valid criticism to dismiss the most comprehensive research on this topic to date, performed at Sweden’s largest medical research institution, as “American right-wing propaganda”. However, it is valid to dismiss the Heritage's conclusions on the study as American right-wing propaganda as the study doesn't support their conclusions whatsoever. That study compares the effects of gender reassignment surgery to the general population, not a population of transgender people who never underwent surgery. Any statement you would make about gender reassignment surgery would necessarily be confounded by the affects of being transgender at all.
dragonwriter 6y ago
> The study you linked measures a completely different thing all together. It measures psychiatric treatment over time after surgery. It makes no mention of suicide I'm not sure which of my links you are inaccurately referring to, but the first paragraph of the first one states, in relevant part: > Transgender individuals who undergo gender-affirming surgery are significantly less likely to [...] attempt suicide in the years following the procedure, new research led by the Yale School of Public Health finds. So, yeah, it mentions suicide quite prominently. > I also don’t think it’s a very valid criticism to dismiss the most comprehensive research on this topic to date, performed at Sweden’s largest medical research institution, as “American right-wing propaganda”. I didn't dismiss the study as right-wing propaganda (in fact, I explictly said that it's methodology is perfectly appropriate to the question it sets out to explore, and the conclusions it actually draws.) I referred to it's misuse to support the claim that sex reassignment surgery causes those problems rather than that being transgender in today’s society causes them and sex reassignment surgery alone fails to adequately resolve them American right-wing propagadanda, largely originating with the American right-wing propaganda mill known as the “Heritage Foundation", which made that exact misuse which is neither a conclusion of the study nor supportable with it's results, which does not compare transgender individuals who receive the surgery with those who do not because the purpose of the study was not to address the question that American right-wingers want to abuse it to support.

grraaaaahhh 6y ago

>I also don’t think it’s a very valid criticism to dismiss the most comprehensive research on this topic to date, performed at Sweden’s largest medical research institution, as “American right-wing propaganda”. However, it is valid to dismiss the Heritage's conclusions on the study as American right-wing propaganda as the study doesn't support their conclusions whatsoever. That study compares the effects of gender reassignment surgery to the general population, not a population of transgender people who never underwent surgery. Any statement you would make about gender reassignment surgery would necessarily be confounded by the affects of being transgender at all.

dragonwriter 6y ago

> The study you linked measures a completely different thing all together. It measures psychiatric treatment over time after surgery. It makes no mention of suicide I'm not sure which of my links you are inaccurately referring to, but the first paragraph of the first one states, in relevant part: > Transgender individuals who undergo gender-affirming surgery are significantly less likely to [...] attempt suicide in the years following the procedure, new research led by the Yale School of Public Health finds. So, yeah, it mentions suicide quite prominently. > I also don’t think it’s a very valid criticism to dismiss the most comprehensive research on this topic to date, performed at Sweden’s largest medical research institution, as “American right-wing propaganda”. I didn't dismiss the study as right-wing propaganda (in fact, I explictly said that it's methodology is perfectly appropriate to the question it sets out to explore, and the conclusions it actually draws.) I referred to it's misuse to support the claim that sex reassignment surgery causes those problems rather than that being transgender in today’s society causes them and sex reassignment surgery alone fails to adequately resolve them American right-wing propagadanda, largely originating with the American right-wing propaganda mill known as the “Heritage Foundation", which made that exact misuse which is neither a conclusion of the study nor supportable with it's results, which does not compare transgender individuals who receive the surgery with those who do not because the purpose of the study was not to address the question that American right-wingers want to abuse it to support.