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Of course you can discuss the topics. But you aren't discussing the topic if you are just dismiss someones feelings because you don't feel the same way and can
by mrlala 6y ago
Of course you can discuss the topics. But you aren't discussing the topic if you are just dismiss someones feelings because you don't feel the same way and can't understand how someone could.
>Simply because they don't believe transwomen are women
"Simply".. really? And before too long ago people "simply" didn't believe that a man could be attracted to another man.
It's ok to discuss the topic, but how can you expect to not sound like a complete bigot if your premise boils down to "I don't believe how you feel"
>It's identity politics and this push of feelings and individual's 'truth' over actual reality and data
That makes no sense. A man telling you "I feel way more like a woman" is not putting feelings over reality/data. It's introducing you to data that you never knew existed. Mostly because the presumption has always been that gender is completely binary; but it's just not that simple. The amount of gay/transgender/asexual people should be all the evidence you need.
If I have every reason to be "happy" (like infinite money, not a care in the world), but I tell you "I'm sad.".. is that also putting reality/data over an individuals feelings? Of course not- I'm the only one who can tell you what I feel, even if it may sound irrational. The same is true about transgender; that is simply what they feel.
>How can we fix the problems if we can't even acknowledge what is real?
You can start by acknowledging how people feel, even if you can't understand it yourself.
- logicchains 6y ago>That makes no sense. A man telling you "I feel way more like a woman" is not putting feelings over reality/data. Clearly you and the person you're replying to have a different definition of "woman". To them, "woman" is a classification based on biological aspects, like having two x chromosomes, to you "woman" is something more abstract.
- mrlala 6y agoI see what you mean, however no one is debating the pure biological definition. >to you "woman" is something more abstract. Yes, and that's what we are talking about.. not the pure biological definition. If someone is going to stick with the pure biological definition then they have just closed their mind before even beginning a discussion.