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Here's a list of examples: https://twitter.com/SpeechUnion/status/1269314030663012352 https://twitter.com/SpeechUnion/status/1269314030663012352

by Vomzor 6y ago

jchook 6y ago
Imagine using your career position as a platform to argue that Black Americans should use “separate but equal” facilities in 2020. Should you get fired? Or is that free speech?
- ekianjo 6y ago
  That's what the ACLU has been screaming on the rooftops for years: "We All Need to Defend Speech We Hate" https://www.aclu.org/blog/free-speech/we-all-need-defend-speech-we-hate https://www.aclu.org/blog/free-speech/we-all-need-defend-spe...
- asdf21 6y ago
  >Imagine using your career position as a platform to argue that Black Americans should use “separate but equal” facilities in 2020. Isn't that one of the core tenants of the BLM campaigns? "Separate but equal" community policing for African American neighborhoods..
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  - gerbal 6y ago
    That's not true at all. This sounds a lot like the random anti BLM propaganda you see on facebook. The core tenants of BLM are that CURRENTLY black communities are policed in a radically different way than white communities. BLM activists want everyone to have a just and fair policing.
    - asdf21 6y ago
      No, it's nothing new... here is an article about the same thing from 2017... unless they have changed, BLM is a separatist movement. https://www.nationalreview.com/2017/07/black-lives-matter-racial-exclusion-lisa-durden-tucker-carlson/ https://www.nationalreview.com/2017/07/black-lives-matter-ra...
      - gerbal 6y ago
        The assertion in that article is that all BLM activists and the whole movement are black separatist and racists because a "media commentator" taunted Tucker Carlson? That article also does not mention that she lost her job as a result of that interview (cancellation works both ways). While there may be black separatists who support BLM, BLM is not a black separatist movement. Ultimately any black separatists will be frustrated by BLM's goals of an inclusive and just society. Also, National Review is about as unbiased as Daily Kos, and has other ideological goals when discrediting BLM.
softwaredoug 6y ago
Digging into a handful of these examples, there’s a lot more to many of these stories. Advertisers not paying for Tucker Carlsons show is itself the advertisers speech, should we deprive them of it? The poetry society is about how an organization wants to democratically run. For now it’s a letter, and if they take action, it would be through their democratic process... should people NOT be advocating for more robust responses from orgs they’re a part of? The Cornell professor appears to have a long history when you look into what the students are saying... I think you CAN find examples, but we probably need to create more robust criteria before making any claims

Here's a list of examples: https://twitter.com/SpeechUnion/status/1269314030663012352 https://twitter.com/SpeechUnion/status/1269314030663012352

by Vomzor 6y ago

Here's a list of examples: https://twitter.com/SpeechUnion/status/1269314030663012352 https://twitter.com/SpeechUnion/status/1269314030663012352

jchook 6y ago

Imagine using your career position as a platform to argue that Black Americans should use “separate but equal” facilities in 2020. Should you get fired? Or is that free speech?

ekianjo 6y ago
That's what the ACLU has been screaming on the rooftops for years: "We All Need to Defend Speech We Hate" https://www.aclu.org/blog/free-speech/we-all-need-defend-speech-we-hate https://www.aclu.org/blog/free-speech/we-all-need-defend-spe...
asdf21 6y ago
>Imagine using your career position as a platform to argue that Black Americans should use “separate but equal” facilities in 2020. Isn't that one of the core tenants of the BLM campaigns? "Separate but equal" community policing for African American neighborhoods..
- deleted 6y ago
  [deleted]
- gerbal 6y ago
  That's not true at all. This sounds a lot like the random anti BLM propaganda you see on facebook. The core tenants of BLM are that CURRENTLY black communities are policed in a radically different way than white communities. BLM activists want everyone to have a just and fair policing.
  - asdf21 6y ago
    No, it's nothing new... here is an article about the same thing from 2017... unless they have changed, BLM is a separatist movement. https://www.nationalreview.com/2017/07/black-lives-matter-racial-exclusion-lisa-durden-tucker-carlson/ https://www.nationalreview.com/2017/07/black-lives-matter-ra...
    - gerbal 6y ago
      The assertion in that article is that all BLM activists and the whole movement are black separatist and racists because a "media commentator" taunted Tucker Carlson? That article also does not mention that she lost her job as a result of that interview (cancellation works both ways). While there may be black separatists who support BLM, BLM is not a black separatist movement. Ultimately any black separatists will be frustrated by BLM's goals of an inclusive and just society. Also, National Review is about as unbiased as Daily Kos, and has other ideological goals when discrediting BLM.

softwaredoug 6y ago

Digging into a handful of these examples, there’s a lot more to many of these stories. Advertisers not paying for Tucker Carlsons show is itself the advertisers speech, should we deprive them of it? The poetry society is about how an organization wants to democratically run. For now it’s a letter, and if they take action, it would be through their democratic process... should people NOT be advocating for more robust responses from orgs they’re a part of? The Cornell professor appears to have a long history when you look into what the students are saying... I think you CAN find examples, but we probably need to create more robust criteria before making any claims