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Given how protective Apple is about the experience of apps on the App Store and this happening the second time, I'm surprised they have not come up with a way t

Given how protective Apple is about the experience of apps on the App Store and this happening the second time, I'm surprised they have not come up with a way to prevent this from happening. Also, a monolithic SDK should not exist in this day and age.

lowwave 6y ago
Libs over SDK!
tannhaeuser 6y ago
Indeed, and if the FB SDK (as used by the Spotify app among others) does in fact call home, it might violate Apple's TOS and give rise to rejecting those apps on the App Store. I'm not up to date with Apple's policies, but wasn't Apple specifically rejecting apps that seek to establish a platform within Apple's platform? Now if Apple are going to play hardball on this one is another question alltogether.
- delfinom 6y ago
  It's a money game and Apple could totally crack down it, but they won't. They may long term but they take cowardly slow steps like everyone else does.
  - scarface74 6y ago
    So exactly how much money does Apple make from free apps? If Apple wanted to make money , it should make it harder for advertising supported apps to make money and force apps to either not exist or get people to pay for them. I would be okay with that.
    - tannhaeuser 6y ago
      I guess Apple will have to weigh whether they'll want to tolerate the Fb app on iOS, but more probably they have a deal with Fb (else they would've kicked them out already). Considering Fb is said to be the main portal for "the web" as a Fb user might see it (which I find still very hard to believe for a number of reasons), if the Fb app (or worse, WhatsApp) isn't on iOS, with Safari and FF already blocking most tracking on facebook.com, Fb might block Apple devices altogether, and Apple might or might not stand to loose in device sales, depending on the intersection of Apple's with Fb's target demographic. If it were only for Spotify (which is a direct competitor to Apple Music), they'll have to weigh whether them kicking Spotify out will be seen as anti-competitive vs having a good excuse for eliminating a competitor on their own platform. But maybe my speculations are way off, and Apple will just tell Fb to fix their shit.
      - scarface74 6y ago
        I would think that Spotify would want to remove the SDK. It doesn’t need the marketing tie ins anymore and it doesn’t use FB for advertising.
- loueed 6y ago
  A quick solution on Apple's part could be to add an easy to use domain blocker as part of there tracking blockers for Safari. Could be buried in the safari settings pages, but with a toggle to apply at an OS level.
Reason077 6y ago
#DefundFacebook
- hellofunk 6y ago
  #DefundAllSocialNetworksExceptHN

lowwave 6y ago

Libs over SDK!

tannhaeuser 6y ago

Indeed, and if the FB SDK (as used by the Spotify app among others) does in fact call home, it might violate Apple's TOS and give rise to rejecting those apps on the App Store. I'm not up to date with Apple's policies, but wasn't Apple specifically rejecting apps that seek to establish a platform within Apple's platform? Now if Apple are going to play hardball on this one is another question alltogether.

delfinom 6y ago
It's a money game and Apple could totally crack down it, but they won't. They may long term but they take cowardly slow steps like everyone else does.
- scarface74 6y ago
  So exactly how much money does Apple make from free apps? If Apple wanted to make money , it should make it harder for advertising supported apps to make money and force apps to either not exist or get people to pay for them. I would be okay with that.
  - tannhaeuser 6y ago
    I guess Apple will have to weigh whether they'll want to tolerate the Fb app on iOS, but more probably they have a deal with Fb (else they would've kicked them out already). Considering Fb is said to be the main portal for "the web" as a Fb user might see it (which I find still very hard to believe for a number of reasons), if the Fb app (or worse, WhatsApp) isn't on iOS, with Safari and FF already blocking most tracking on facebook.com, Fb might block Apple devices altogether, and Apple might or might not stand to loose in device sales, depending on the intersection of Apple's with Fb's target demographic. If it were only for Spotify (which is a direct competitor to Apple Music), they'll have to weigh whether them kicking Spotify out will be seen as anti-competitive vs having a good excuse for eliminating a competitor on their own platform. But maybe my speculations are way off, and Apple will just tell Fb to fix their shit.
    - scarface74 6y ago
      I would think that Spotify would want to remove the SDK. It doesn’t need the marketing tie ins anymore and it doesn’t use FB for advertising.
loueed 6y ago
A quick solution on Apple's part could be to add an easy to use domain blocker as part of there tracking blockers for Safari. Could be buried in the safari settings pages, but with a toggle to apply at an OS level.

Reason077 6y ago

#DefundFacebook

hellofunk 6y ago
#DefundAllSocialNetworksExceptHN