The point is neither you nor Stefan are even disagreeing with the point that the hoaxers are making: that these journals are not capable of rejecting even the m

The point is neither you nor Stefan are even disagreeing with the point that the hoaxers are making: that these journals are not capable of rejecting even the most blatantly bad submissions. Stefan is just saying that the same point the hoaxers are making can also be made towards other fields. That may be the case, but it doesn't make the hoaxer's statements any less true. "This journal accepts blatantly bad submissions" "But other journals also accept blatantly bad submissions" The second sentence does not do anything to disprove the first.