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In case it wasn't clear I will spell it out. That choice was not what was being contended. It was your behavior of bad faith actions that I was contending. You
by memexy 6y ago
In case it wasn't clear I will spell it out. That choice was not what was being contended. It was your behavior of bad faith actions that I was contending. You tried to bias the actual argument and paint me in a certain way by quoting me out of context, which I rightfully called out.
I encourage people to read as well and reach their own conclusions without me putting words in their mouth or biasing their reasoning as you did in your shortcircuit post. Because rational and reasoned argument requires each individual to weigh the evidence and then respond with compelling arguments for refuting or accepting them.
- quantumwoke 6y agoFWIW: there is at least one HNer (me) who has read both subthreads and completely agrees with your assessment of the situation. 'mst is engaging in those time-honored tactics of the online troll - mischaracterise, redirect, disengage. Unfortunately these bad faith discussions are all too common recently and it's sad to see HN swallow the bait.
- memexy 6y agoEven more reason to stand up for what's right. And I appreciate your encouragement. I want more people to act in good faith so I try to model the type of argument I want to see more of through actual actions.
- lyssa17 6y agohello! friendly invite to say hi on reddit if you like :) /u/foobanana
- mst 6y agoI am sorry that you consider genuine attempts to get real answers to be trolling with no explanation as to twhy. I continue to stand by my choice to invite people to read the entire thread and draw their own conclusions.
- memexy 6y agoDon't apologize. Stop using such tactics. I already pointed out what you did, how you did it, and why it was disingenuous. If you were sincere you would not have quoted me out of context, you would not have tried to bias the group opinion, and you would not have shifted the blame as you are doing now. You should just stop because you are no longer making any points.
- mst 6y ago"I am sorry", in this case, was meant in its plain meaning of "I feel sorrow about this being the case". Not everything is a tactic. Sometimes people just mean what they say.
- memexy 6y ago> I am sorry that you consider genuine attempts to get real answers to be trolling with no explanation as to twhy. That's called shifting the blame because you're shifting the responsibility and consequences of your actions onto someone else. That is not how one begins an apology. An apology begins as "I am sorry. I will reflect and consider the feedback given and do better next time. Please feel free to give further feedback if you feel like it and I will consider it and improve my behavior".
- mst 6y agoIt wasn't an apology, as I already said in the comment you're responding to.
- CompanionCuuube 6y agoNot to all people, and not necessarily to the commenter you are responding to.
- mst 6y agoAfter clarifying that what I said wasn't an apology memexy continues to criticise me because it didn't fit their standards of apology. I accept that my phrasing was not entirely clear but given having made what I meant explicit and still being attacked I'm unsure that my mistakes were the primary problem in this case.