But don't you want that sort of guy _not_ working on core projects? - then they get intrigued by running some little embedded language on toasters, and WHAM. (

But don't you want that sort of guy _not_ working on core projects? - then they get intrigued by running some little embedded language on toasters, and WHAM. (But you do involve them in enough core work such they have a feel for the practicalities)