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There is no such thing as a 'domestic terrorist organization'. It is illegal to classify any domestic organization as terrorist. That's why the KKK isn't one, a

by darawk 6y ago

There is no such thing as a 'domestic terrorist organization'. It is illegal to classify any domestic organization as terrorist. That's why the KKK isn't one, and it's why Antifa isn't one either, Trump's blustering about it notwithstanding.

FilterSweep 6y ago
Antifa is considered a domestic terrorist organization to the trump admin. Even though being antifa is simply being against fascism.
- darawk 6y ago
  It's not though. Not in any legal sense.
  - FilterSweep 6y ago
    Is it or is it not? Per this tweet, I really don’t know: https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1267129644228247552 https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1267129644...
    - darawk 6y ago
      https://www.factcheck.org/2020/06/trump-cant-designate-antifa-or-any-movement-domestic-terrorist-organization/ https://www.factcheck.org/2020/06/trump-cant-designate-antif... Fortunately our legal system doesn't operate on the basis of Trump's tweets.
- drusepth 6y ago
  "Being antifa" has a lot more connotations than just being against fascism. Equating the antifa group and it's loose "members" with just an anti-ideology is a cop-out that isn't helpful to differentiating a desirable mindset (anti-fascism) with the undesirable tactics that many "members" of Antifa use.
aspenmayer 6y ago
Actions that prevent fair and free exercise of civil rights are against the law. The designation of the groups under the law is not relevant to the actions of the KKK already being illegal if they interfere with the above. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Enforcement_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Enforcement_Act
minerjoe 6y ago
I'd call TigerSwan a domestic terrorist organization with the way they handled the Standing Rock protest.
- darawk 6y ago
  Again, what I would call them is not the point. The point is that it is unconstitutional to designate any domestic organization a 'terrorist organization'. https://www.factcheck.org/2020/06/trump-cant-designate-antifa-or-any-movement-domestic-terrorist-organization/ https://www.factcheck.org/2020/06/trump-cant-designate-antif...

by darawk 6y ago

FilterSweep 6y ago

Antifa is considered a domestic terrorist organization to the trump admin. Even though being antifa is simply being against fascism.

darawk 6y ago
It's not though. Not in any legal sense.
- FilterSweep 6y ago
  Is it or is it not? Per this tweet, I really don’t know: https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1267129644228247552 https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1267129644...
  - darawk 6y ago
    https://www.factcheck.org/2020/06/trump-cant-designate-antifa-or-any-movement-domestic-terrorist-organization/ https://www.factcheck.org/2020/06/trump-cant-designate-antif... Fortunately our legal system doesn't operate on the basis of Trump's tweets.
drusepth 6y ago
"Being antifa" has a lot more connotations than just being against fascism. Equating the antifa group and it's loose "members" with just an anti-ideology is a cop-out that isn't helpful to differentiating a desirable mindset (anti-fascism) with the undesirable tactics that many "members" of Antifa use.

aspenmayer 6y ago

Actions that prevent fair and free exercise of civil rights are against the law. The designation of the groups under the law is not relevant to the actions of the KKK already being illegal if they interfere with the above. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Enforcement_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Enforcement_Act

minerjoe 6y ago

I'd call TigerSwan a domestic terrorist organization with the way they handled the Standing Rock protest.

darawk 6y ago
Again, what I would call them is not the point. The point is that it is unconstitutional to designate any domestic organization a 'terrorist organization'. https://www.factcheck.org/2020/06/trump-cant-designate-antifa-or-any-movement-domestic-terrorist-organization/ https://www.factcheck.org/2020/06/trump-cant-designate-antif...