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Or you could just buy an android and not worry about it. Not even to fan boy, but half of those are things that android did from the go and the rest have been

Or you could just buy an android and not worry about it. Not even to fan boy, but half of those are things that android did from the go and the rest have been added or are generally easy to do.

zaptrem 6y ago
But then we miss out on Apple's hardware quality, industry-crushing A-Series processors, and (for the most part) rock solid and extremely efficient OS.
- Wingman4l7 6y ago
  You better hope they don't ever bring their premium-priced laptop "hardware quality" to their phones -- failing GPUs, failing monitor ribbon cables, failing keyboards...
  - paulmd 6y ago
    ipad pros are already there, they're so thin they can arrive bent right out of the box. ipads and iphones are amazing hardware in every other respect but Apple really needs to chill with the ultra-thin fetish. (same goes for their PC hardware, but the hardware is not particularly amazing there.)
- eertami 6y ago
  >But then we miss out on Apple's hardware quality, industry-crushing A-Series processors, To what end, my 5 year old midrange phone still loads everything instantly (Snapdragon 801). Is there actually any benefit of 'top of the line' mobile CPUs except for mobile gamers?
  - devenblake 6y ago
    I was an Android fan for years, but as a kid I'd always wanted an iPhone 4 so I got one recently. At the time there were some weird blocks on everything (I still don't really know what was happening but everything works now) so eventually I just got an iPhone SE (the good one, with the headphone jack). It blew my mind. The animations actually run at high framerates, the keyboard has very little latency, and it just works. I've never tried out a high-end Android that could hold up to my SE based on keyboard latency alone. It makes a really big difference.
megablast 6y ago
And worry about something else, like it exploding, or not getting security updates after the first year, or boot loop, etc.
- strombofulous 6y ago
  > Like it exploding That was an issue with one phone, once, and it was a problem with the battery, not Android > Not getting security updates after the first year That's actually solved by rooting since you can update from any source instead of just signed packages > Boot loop I guess that could be a problem but I've never had that issue and I've rooted all but one phone that I've had
  - ueouieodue 6y ago
    > That was an issue with one phone, once, and it was a problem with the battery, not Android If my house burns down, I personally won't care if it's android in general, the model, or the battery in the android phone which destroyed everything I own. > That's actually solved by rooting since you can update from any source instead of just signed packages Installing software downloaded from xda-developers is, what I like to call, malware as a service (tm).
    - muppetman 6y ago
      Can you link me to a custom ROM on XDA that was shown to have Malware?
      - Bnshsysjab 6y ago
        This seems like a pretty weak argument, are you sure you want to trust a bunch of hobbiest devs with the security of your (probably) most valuable computer? Just because something doesn’t have any know issues, doesn’t mean it’s not wise to avoid it because it flat out smells.
        devenblake 6y ago
cookiengineer 6y ago
> buy an android > not worry about it. I’m sorry, but this feels like a lie. I’m not trying to troll here, but most Android IT-level users I know flashed a custom ROM already and actually buy their devices based on whether or not LineageOS has support for it. Almost all Android devices are non-Google devices, which makes their OEM state bloated with custom sync crap nobody even wants to use but have no choice. Xiaomi, Motorola, Lenovo, Huawei, HTC ... all force their own shitty half-working synchronization platforms up their users’ phones. And I bet that this happens with major GDPR violations. As an Android “user” I do not recommend using Android for people that do not want to “worry about it”. And product wise I think that’s a huge quality issue.
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Or you could just buy an android and not worry about it. Not even to fan boy, but half of those are things that android did from the go and the rest have been added or are generally easy to do.

zaptrem 6y ago

But then we miss out on Apple's hardware quality, industry-crushing A-Series processors, and (for the most part) rock solid and extremely efficient OS.

Wingman4l7 6y ago
You better hope they don't ever bring their premium-priced laptop "hardware quality" to their phones -- failing GPUs, failing monitor ribbon cables, failing keyboards...
- paulmd 6y ago
  ipad pros are already there, they're so thin they can arrive bent right out of the box. ipads and iphones are amazing hardware in every other respect but Apple really needs to chill with the ultra-thin fetish. (same goes for their PC hardware, but the hardware is not particularly amazing there.)
eertami 6y ago
>But then we miss out on Apple's hardware quality, industry-crushing A-Series processors, To what end, my 5 year old midrange phone still loads everything instantly (Snapdragon 801). Is there actually any benefit of 'top of the line' mobile CPUs except for mobile gamers?
- devenblake 6y ago
  I was an Android fan for years, but as a kid I'd always wanted an iPhone 4 so I got one recently. At the time there were some weird blocks on everything (I still don't really know what was happening but everything works now) so eventually I just got an iPhone SE (the good one, with the headphone jack). It blew my mind. The animations actually run at high framerates, the keyboard has very little latency, and it just works. I've never tried out a high-end Android that could hold up to my SE based on keyboard latency alone. It makes a really big difference.

megablast 6y ago

And worry about something else, like it exploding, or not getting security updates after the first year, or boot loop, etc.

strombofulous 6y ago
> Like it exploding That was an issue with one phone, once, and it was a problem with the battery, not Android > Not getting security updates after the first year That's actually solved by rooting since you can update from any source instead of just signed packages > Boot loop I guess that could be a problem but I've never had that issue and I've rooted all but one phone that I've had
- ueouieodue 6y ago
  > That was an issue with one phone, once, and it was a problem with the battery, not Android If my house burns down, I personally won't care if it's android in general, the model, or the battery in the android phone which destroyed everything I own. > That's actually solved by rooting since you can update from any source instead of just signed packages Installing software downloaded from xda-developers is, what I like to call, malware as a service (tm).
  - muppetman 6y ago
    Can you link me to a custom ROM on XDA that was shown to have Malware?
    - Bnshsysjab 6y ago
      This seems like a pretty weak argument, are you sure you want to trust a bunch of hobbiest devs with the security of your (probably) most valuable computer? Just because something doesn’t have any know issues, doesn’t mean it’s not wise to avoid it because it flat out smells.
      - devenblake 6y ago

cookiengineer 6y ago

> buy an android > not worry about it. I’m sorry, but this feels like a lie. I’m not trying to troll here, but most Android IT-level users I know flashed a custom ROM already and actually buy their devices based on whether or not LineageOS has support for it. Almost all Android devices are non-Google devices, which makes their OEM state bloated with custom sync crap nobody even wants to use but have no choice. Xiaomi, Motorola, Lenovo, Huawei, HTC ... all force their own shitty half-working synchronization platforms up their users’ phones. And I bet that this happens with major GDPR violations. As an Android “user” I do not recommend using Android for people that do not want to “worry about it”. And product wise I think that’s a huge quality issue.

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