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"buys" suggest causation.. sensationalized bs from someone who definitely knows better.

ggggtez 6y ago
Money buys food to eat, a home in a safe neighborhood, a night out with friends, nice clothes for dating, an education, etc etc etc. Even if you are discussing depression and mental illness, money buys you therapy, medication, etc etc. Get out of here with your idea that happiness is some magical thing that money can't buy. Go talk to a homeless person and ask them if money would improve their lives.
- begemotz 6y ago
  There is a difference between what you are saying and saying that "money buys happiness". The research (if you read it) always maintained that there was a correlation between "happiness" (which is also not what is studied but usually 'subjective well-being') and money up to a point where the correlation leveled off. The idea being that money to that point was instrumental in securing those basic necessities you mention. What does not follow and yet is implied is the notion that if you want more happiness, just get more money.
  - newen 6y ago
    This article references that and it says that new research shows there is no leveling off.
- fragmede 6y ago
  Go talk to penniless lottery winners who've burn through all of their money, discovered most of their friends were only in it for the money, and are just as (un)happy as before they won the lottery, if not worse off. Go talk to homeless people that have made it off the streets, and while there are obvious quality of life improvements to not living on the streets, far less obvious is the things that people lose when they get off the streets. There's a sense of community that the ex-homeless sometimes lament. Money means you can afford therapy. Severe mental illness means it may not be the money itself that's the barrier to being successfully treated. Having money does mean it's not the money itself that's the barrier - spending the money on yourself may be a barrier, however!) Money doesn't buy happiness. It entirely fair to point out that it's a helluva lot easier to be happy if you're not destitute. But let's also not pretend that there aren't rich people that are bored, lonely, and sad.
  - ggggtez 6y ago
    > go talk to penniless lottery winners You are just proving my point. They have no money. To buy happiness you need money. It's obvious on the face of it. Do people who were rich in the past and could buy all the food they could eat... suddenly no longer need to eat at all? Or because they used to live in a nice house, they no longer need shelter when they are old? No one is saying that it's impossible to have a bad day just because you have a dollar in your pocket.

Money buys food to eat, a home in a safe neighborhood, a night out with friends, nice clothes for dating, an education, etc etc etc. Even if you are discussing depression and mental illness, money buys you therapy, medication, etc etc. Get out of here with your idea that happiness is some magical thing that money can't buy. Go talk to a homeless person and ask them if money would improve their lives.

begemotz 6y ago
There is a difference between what you are saying and saying that "money buys happiness". The research (if you read it) always maintained that there was a correlation between "happiness" (which is also not what is studied but usually 'subjective well-being') and money up to a point where the correlation leveled off. The idea being that money to that point was instrumental in securing those basic necessities you mention. What does not follow and yet is implied is the notion that if you want more happiness, just get more money.
- newen 6y ago
  This article references that and it says that new research shows there is no leveling off.
fragmede 6y ago
Go talk to penniless lottery winners who've burn through all of their money, discovered most of their friends were only in it for the money, and are just as (un)happy as before they won the lottery, if not worse off. Go talk to homeless people that have made it off the streets, and while there are obvious quality of life improvements to not living on the streets, far less obvious is the things that people lose when they get off the streets. There's a sense of community that the ex-homeless sometimes lament. Money means you can afford therapy. Severe mental illness means it may not be the money itself that's the barrier to being successfully treated. Having money does mean it's not the money itself that's the barrier - spending the money on yourself may be a barrier, however!) Money doesn't buy happiness. It entirely fair to point out that it's a helluva lot easier to be happy if you're not destitute. But let's also not pretend that there aren't rich people that are bored, lonely, and sad.
- ggggtez 6y ago
  > go talk to penniless lottery winners You are just proving my point. They have no money. To buy happiness you need money. It's obvious on the face of it. Do people who were rich in the past and could buy all the food they could eat... suddenly no longer need to eat at all? Or because they used to live in a nice house, they no longer need shelter when they are old? No one is saying that it's impossible to have a bad day just because you have a dollar in your pocket.