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Doesn't this demonstrate why the touchbar isn't very useful? Every part of this UI would be better without it--physical keys to play the samples, a big touchpa

Doesn't this demonstrate why the touchbar isn't very useful? Every part of this UI would be better without it--physical keys to play the samples, a big touchpad to use slider controls with, the hi-def screen to see it all happen. (It's a really neat demo)

pampa 6y ago
Just a thought. Instead of replacing the f keys and escape, they should have just replaced the whole area under the keyboard where the trackpad is with a touch screen. It is a win-win. Imagine a huge touch interface where we already expect one, with haptic feedback AND visual feedback.
- dmitriid 6y ago
  We can already imagine that. Apple increased the size of the touchpad for no good reason. And palm rejection constantly fails causing the cursor to jump as you're typing or pressing key shortcuts.
  - breakfastduck 6y ago
    I can see them expanding the cursor behavior in iPadOS into macOS, where its magnetic and it's more like a touch surface. If there was any trackpad to pull that off its the macbook trackpads.
    - dmitriid 6y ago
      Why would you ever want that in a desktop OS?
      - breakfastduck 6y ago
        It depends on the execution. It feels super nice on iPad and if you're running a Catalyst app or such on macOS that's designed for it, it could be cool to be able to toggle between the cursors.
        dmitriid 6y ago
        > It feels super nice on iPad Because it's an iPad. > on macOS That's a desktop OS with an entirely different ... well, everything. Including precision positioning of the cursor. I can only see it as an accessibility option (in this case it might work well).
        breakfastduck 6y ago
        I would agree on the macOS point right now, but big surs design style leans heavily towards a style that would probably work quite well with it. I would only want it as an option, I would in no way want it to be the only option. I just think the different cursor types could benefit different types of applications.
- sergeykish 6y ago
  Asus ZenBook Pro Duo has a huge secondary display on top of the keyboard. Alternatively Macbook already has big touchpad, add a screen like Asus ScreenPad.
breakfastduck 6y ago
Not fair - apple may have not made great use of their own touch bar, but better touch tool and the plugins users have made makes it really, really good.
ulisesrmzroche 6y ago
You ever played synths?
zimpenfish 6y ago
> Every part of this UI would be better without it--physical keys to play the samples There's one part that wouldn't be possible with keys since it loops the part of the sample between two fingers (41-48s). > a big touchpad to use slider controls with That'd be the iPad version of Samplr.

pampa 6y ago

Just a thought. Instead of replacing the f keys and escape, they should have just replaced the whole area under the keyboard where the trackpad is with a touch screen. It is a win-win. Imagine a huge touch interface where we already expect one, with haptic feedback AND visual feedback.

dmitriid 6y ago
We can already imagine that. Apple increased the size of the touchpad for no good reason. And palm rejection constantly fails causing the cursor to jump as you're typing or pressing key shortcuts.
- breakfastduck 6y ago
  I can see them expanding the cursor behavior in iPadOS into macOS, where its magnetic and it's more like a touch surface. If there was any trackpad to pull that off its the macbook trackpads.
  - dmitriid 6y ago
    Why would you ever want that in a desktop OS?
    - breakfastduck 6y ago
      It depends on the execution. It feels super nice on iPad and if you're running a Catalyst app or such on macOS that's designed for it, it could be cool to be able to toggle between the cursors.
      - dmitriid 6y ago
        > It feels super nice on iPad Because it's an iPad. > on macOS That's a desktop OS with an entirely different ... well, everything. Including precision positioning of the cursor. I can only see it as an accessibility option (in this case it might work well).
        breakfastduck 6y ago
        I would agree on the macOS point right now, but big surs design style leans heavily towards a style that would probably work quite well with it. I would only want it as an option, I would in no way want it to be the only option. I just think the different cursor types could benefit different types of applications.
sergeykish 6y ago
Asus ZenBook Pro Duo has a huge secondary display on top of the keyboard. Alternatively Macbook already has big touchpad, add a screen like Asus ScreenPad.

breakfastduck 6y ago

Not fair - apple may have not made great use of their own touch bar, but better touch tool and the plugins users have made makes it really, really good.

ulisesrmzroche 6y ago

You ever played synths?

zimpenfish 6y ago

> Every part of this UI would be better without it--physical keys to play the samples There's one part that wouldn't be possible with keys since it loops the part of the sample between two fingers (41-48s). > a big touchpad to use slider controls with That'd be the iPad version of Samplr.