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I don't have any statistics, but based on the amount of learning articles, books, etc. out there it seems like Vapor is the dominant Swift Web framework. Kitura

I don't have any statistics, but based on the amount of learning articles, books, etc. out there it seems like Vapor is the dominant Swift Web framework. Kitura looked promising, but IBM has stopped supporting it, so its future is not clear (the last commit to the main branch was in November 2019). Also, the two main Vapor devs are members of the Swift Server Work Group (with the other two being from Apple): https://swift.org/server/ https://swift.org/server/ I'm not sure how to answer your question regarding whether Vapor is viable for indie hackers, because I've only been skimming the docs and looking at small examples. But it seems to draw a lot of inspiration from Express.js and/or Ruby's Sinatra library. It doesn't seem to have the up-front complexity of something like Java's Spring Framework, although I understand you can use services and dependency injection if needed. So my first impression is it's easy to get started, but it enables you to refactor to something more complex if your application demands it.

deltron3030 6y ago
Thanks for your answer. So Vapor for building APIs, not web monoliths, good to know. It kinda makes sense considering that most of the users will use mobile apps on the client side. Personally I also find Elixir and the Phoenix framework very interesting.
- ralmidani 6y ago
  No problem! Vapor does have its own template system if you don't want to build "just" an API: https://github.com/vapor/leaf https://github.com/vapor/leaf I have also looked at Elixir and Phoenix, but have not written any code in them. I have yet to really dive into anything outside the C-like languages (Python, JS, Java, Swift, Ruby, C, C++), and Elixir seems like a good reason to venture outside my comfort zone. By the way, no pressure, but if you ever want to discuss Swift, maybe do some paired programming/studying, let me know. I'm still fairly new but I have experimented with building a Swift-to-CSS DSL that I would like to eventually spend more time on. If you want to email me, ragheed.almidani is the name, and protonmail.com is the domain.

deltron3030 6y ago

Thanks for your answer. So Vapor for building APIs, not web monoliths, good to know. It kinda makes sense considering that most of the users will use mobile apps on the client side. Personally I also find Elixir and the Phoenix framework very interesting.

ralmidani 6y ago
No problem! Vapor does have its own template system if you don't want to build "just" an API: https://github.com/vapor/leaf https://github.com/vapor/leaf I have also looked at Elixir and Phoenix, but have not written any code in them. I have yet to really dive into anything outside the C-like languages (Python, JS, Java, Swift, Ruby, C, C++), and Elixir seems like a good reason to venture outside my comfort zone. By the way, no pressure, but if you ever want to discuss Swift, maybe do some paired programming/studying, let me know. I'm still fairly new but I have experimented with building a Swift-to-CSS DSL that I would like to eventually spend more time on. If you want to email me, ragheed.almidani is the name, and protonmail.com is the domain.