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It is perverse, but there is a method to the madness. Some sentencing mitigations or parole decisions are based upon length of sentence. Someone who is given

by evgen 6y ago

It is perverse, but there is a method to the madness. Some sentencing mitigations or parole decisions are based upon length of sentence. Someone who is given a 20 year sentence may be eligible for parole when, for example, 1/4 of the sentence has been served. By setting the sentence to a ridiculous length it is effectively denying any possibility for parole without directly stating that the sentence is to served without any chance for parole.

seebetter 6y ago
They already do this in LA. Get sentenced to 120 days in jail but due to overcrowding you’d do 5-10 days in jail. Soon local politicians will require you only to do 1% of jail time so you’ll be sentenced to a 100 years in jail for a misdemeanor. This already exists in the California bail system where you pay 1% of astronomically high bails (eg $60,000 bail for 1st time misdemeanor, like if they change a court date and fail to inform you).
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jandrese 6y ago
I figure it must have been to get around a rule that says "you can't add a no-parole rider for this kind of crime".
arp242 6y ago
In the Netherlands life imprisonment means exactly that: imprisonment for life. There is no option for parole, other than by royal decree (which seems to have happened 3 times since 1970) [1] According to Wikipedia[2], there are several countries where this is the case: > In Europe, there are many countries where the law expressly provides for life sentences without the possibility of parole. These countries are England and Wales (within the United Kingdom), the Netherlands, Moldova, Bulgaria, Italy, Hungary, Austria, Malta, Cyprus, Albania, Ukraine and the Republic of Ireland. This seems much clearer to me than a 200-year sentence which needs to undergo a calculation to get the actual sentence length. As I understand it, the way trails are done are also a bit different: rather than "two counts of X", people are judged based on "did X two times". In other words, you don't get a separate conviction for both Xs. So if someone killed three people, they're judged based on killing three people, rather than based on every individual killing. In those cases someone can receive a life sentence, rather than "3x30=90 years" or some such. [1]: Details in Dutch: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levenslange_gevangenisstraf#Nederland https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levenslange_gevangenisstraf#Ne... [2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_imprisonment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_imprisonment

by evgen 6y ago

seebetter 6y ago

They already do this in LA. Get sentenced to 120 days in jail but due to overcrowding you’d do 5-10 days in jail. Soon local politicians will require you only to do 1% of jail time so you’ll be sentenced to a 100 years in jail for a misdemeanor. This already exists in the California bail system where you pay 1% of astronomically high bails (eg $60,000 bail for 1st time misdemeanor, like if they change a court date and fail to inform you).

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jandrese 6y ago

I figure it must have been to get around a rule that says "you can't add a no-parole rider for this kind of crime".

arp242 6y ago

In the Netherlands life imprisonment means exactly that: imprisonment for life. There is no option for parole, other than by royal decree (which seems to have happened 3 times since 1970) [1] According to Wikipedia[2], there are several countries where this is the case: > In Europe, there are many countries where the law expressly provides for life sentences without the possibility of parole. These countries are England and Wales (within the United Kingdom), the Netherlands, Moldova, Bulgaria, Italy, Hungary, Austria, Malta, Cyprus, Albania, Ukraine and the Republic of Ireland. This seems much clearer to me than a 200-year sentence which needs to undergo a calculation to get the actual sentence length. As I understand it, the way trails are done are also a bit different: rather than "two counts of X", people are judged based on "did X two times". In other words, you don't get a separate conviction for both Xs. So if someone killed three people, they're judged based on killing three people, rather than based on every individual killing. In those cases someone can receive a life sentence, rather than "3x30=90 years" or some such. [1]: Details in Dutch: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levenslange_gevangenisstraf#Nederland https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levenslange_gevangenisstraf#Ne... [2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_imprisonment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_imprisonment