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FWIW, the Internet Archive is willing to remove content if you can prove you are the owner and request it using the proper methods.
by JoblessWonder 6y ago
FWIW, the Internet Archive is willing to remove content if you can prove you are the owner and request it using the proper methods.
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- bluntfang 6y agoIt's so funny how this community falls squarely on the "Opt-out is bad!" side except for the internet archive!
- fmajid 6y agoThe Internet Archive provides an important historical archiving mission. Even when the content is made unavailable by express request from the owner, it is still preserved for future generations. This is not a frivolous purpose.
- recursive 6y agoAll purpose's defenders will claim that theirs is not frivolous.
- wizzwizz4 6y agoMeaning that no non-frivolous purpose exists?
- recursive 6y agoI'm not sure if it means that. I'm just sure that for each purpose, we can find someone that relies on it.
- AnthonyMouse 6y agoLet's try it this way. For any given website, more likely than not they would want the Internet Archive to archive it. For any given internet user, more likely than not they wouldn't want a website to track them for the purposes of advertising and price discrimination. This tells us what the defaults should be in each case, and let the exceptions change the setting if they want.
- saalweachter 6y agoIs the Internet Archive archiving websites for the benefit of the internet users or the benefit of the website authors?
- psds2 6y agoWhy do you believe that a website would want the Internet Archive to archive it? There is clear evidence that some do not want to be archived (the existence of opt out option). What data shows that most do?
- AnthonyMouse 6y agoBeing archived is all advantages. Users don't generally go to the internet archive instead of the source, so it isn't really competing with you for users. People trust it as an independent party, so if you want to be able to claim that you said something a year ago, it allows you to point to it there and prove that you didn't just put it on your website yesterday and post-date it. If you blow up your website by accident, they've backed up the content for free. People like the idea of what they wrote being preserved for posterity. The percentage of websites that actually opt out of being in the archive rounds to zero. Compare this to the much larger percentage of internet users who opt out of ads by installing ad blocking software, despite many websites whinging at you or refusing to display content if you do.
- bluntfang 6y agoI'm sure the reasons for collecting your PII are not frivolous to the consumers of that data.
- falcor84 6y agoI don't think this is disingenuous. Unlike pretty much every other player scraping the internet, the Internet Archive is a transparent non-profit that has relatedly proven itself to be squarely on the side of the public. I think it's very reasonable to treat them as the exception.
- skrebbel 6y ago"This community" doesn't have a singular opinion.
- millettjon 6y agoWebsites are public. The act of publishing on one is an explicit opt-in.
- at_a_remove 6y agoIt honors robots.txt, even retroactively across changes of owners of domain names.