5 ms·

Apple announces WWDC: June 6-10, preview of OS X & iOS

39 points by mattparcher 16y ago

maguay 16y ago
The question is, will iOS become more like OS X, or will OS X become still more like iOS? Or is it finally time to look forward to OS Xi?
- Skroob 16y ago
  The developer preview of Lion makes it pretty clear which way things are heading. I wouldn't expect much deviation from that on the Mac side. I'll be interested to see what they're planning for iOS 5 though.
- bittermang 16y ago
  It's all marketing spin. Let's not forget the iPhone launch in 2007: "We start with a strong foundation. iPhone runs OS X. ... Desktop class applications and networking." Flash forward to a world that has been fundamentally changed by the iPhone and iOS, and the new marketing line is: "The power of Mac OS. The magic of iPad." and other such lines about bringing iOS to Mac OS. It's all about perception, reality, and marketing.
JCB_K 16y ago
I think it's funny that tickets are $1599. That will definitely attract more people than when it would be $1600.
- fredoliveira 16y ago
  actually, it will. A good read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_pricing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_pricing
  - JCB_K 16y ago
    I know the concept of price ending, but my point is that 1. WWDC sells out anyway, and 2. It's mainly companies paying their developers to go here.
    - Skroob 16y ago
      Your second point might be technically accurate, but there's a very large contingent of indie developers, like myself, with 1-5 employees that shoulder all the cost ourselves.
- protomyth 16y ago
  Also, many companies / governments have different procedure for stuff over $X, but $(X - 1) might be easier. Doubt anyone has a break at $1599 vs $1600 though. It is often easier to order a $4,999 item than a $5,000 item.
mcritz 16y ago
I’m greatful the announcement has enough lead time to book a flight and a hotel.
aj700 16y ago
My 'The question is' is: Will Lion demand 1GB, 1.5GB or 2GB or RAM?! I mean absolute minimal install requrements, not ideal ones.
- Zev 16y ago
  You can answer that question by looking at what the oldest 64-bit machine was and seeing how little ram you could buy one with.
kgutteridge 16y ago
Good to see we got more notice than the 40 days last year, which made it a royal pain for anyone coming from the Worldwide part of this developer conference. Whilst an expensive trip if it is anywhere near as useful as it was in 2009, its well worth it. If it sells out, you have to wonder whether the developer part of the conference should be ticketed separately from the keynote, as I would happily miss the keynote for access to the information.
38leinad 16y ago
Will be my first time at the conference. Don't know anybody, but really looking forward to meet some nice people and get some first-hand knowledge! :-D
- chicagobob 16y ago
  I highly recommend you read Jeff LaMarche's WWDC survival guide. http://iphonedevelopment.blogspot.com/2011/03/wwdc-first-timer-survival-guide-2011.html http://iphonedevelopment.blogspot.com/2011/03/wwdc-first-tim...
- greengarstudios 16y ago
  yeah, let's meet. this will be my 3rd time.
koko775 16y ago
Argh, If only I could afford it. All of my money is tied up by sending it home to support my parents. :(
daimyoyo 16y ago
I'm learning the iOS SDK and I think I'd truly benefit from attending, but the $1600 price is WAY out of what I can reasonably afford. So does Apple ever offer reduced rates for people just starting out? Seems to me that'd be a wise investment on their part. After all, if they offer seats for 75% off, and just one person makes a blockbuster app, they'll more than make the difference up in app store and or iAds fees.
- mattparcher 16y ago
  If you’re a registered developer, the session videos and materials will be on iTunes, after some delay.
  - stevejohnson 16y ago
    In recent years the delay has gone from months, to a month, to weeks, to a week, to mere days. This year, I wouldn't be surprised if they weren't online the day after they were given.
    - jonhendry 16y ago
      And the price for the videos went from $500 for 2009 to $0 for 2010.
- gaiusparx 16y ago
  Discount will never happen as the seats are booked solid very quickly. It is price that high partly due to high demand. If it is priced at $500, all the seats will be taken within minutes. I hope Apple will follow last WWDC by releasing the session videos free into iTunes U after the event.
- kenferry 16y ago
  There are student scholarships that aren't super difficult to get, but I think that's it.
jchrisa 16y ago
This will be my first WWDC. :)
jonhendry 16y ago
I'll be there. My first developer conference since NeXTWorld Expo 1994.
spearo77 16y ago
Incredibly, it's already sold out! https://twitter.com/jury/status/52503970022817792 https://twitter.com/jury/status/52503970022817792

39 points by mattparcher 16y ago

The question is, will iOS become more like OS X, or will OS X become still more like iOS? Or is it finally time to look forward to OS Xi?

Skroob 16y ago
The developer preview of Lion makes it pretty clear which way things are heading. I wouldn't expect much deviation from that on the Mac side. I'll be interested to see what they're planning for iOS 5 though.
bittermang 16y ago
It's all marketing spin. Let's not forget the iPhone launch in 2007: "We start with a strong foundation. iPhone runs OS X. ... Desktop class applications and networking." Flash forward to a world that has been fundamentally changed by the iPhone and iOS, and the new marketing line is: "The power of Mac OS. The magic of iPad." and other such lines about bringing iOS to Mac OS. It's all about perception, reality, and marketing.

JCB_K 16y ago

I think it's funny that tickets are $1599. That will definitely attract more people than when it would be $1600.

fredoliveira 16y ago
actually, it will. A good read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_pricing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_pricing
- JCB_K 16y ago
  I know the concept of price ending, but my point is that 1. WWDC sells out anyway, and 2. It's mainly companies paying their developers to go here.
  - Skroob 16y ago
    Your second point might be technically accurate, but there's a very large contingent of indie developers, like myself, with 1-5 employees that shoulder all the cost ourselves.
protomyth 16y ago
Also, many companies / governments have different procedure for stuff over $X, but $(X - 1) might be easier. Doubt anyone has a break at $1599 vs $1600 though. It is often easier to order a $4,999 item than a $5,000 item.

mcritz 16y ago

I’m greatful the announcement has enough lead time to book a flight and a hotel.

aj700 16y ago

My 'The question is' is: Will Lion demand 1GB, 1.5GB or 2GB or RAM?! I mean absolute minimal install requrements, not ideal ones.

Zev 16y ago
You can answer that question by looking at what the oldest 64-bit machine was and seeing how little ram you could buy one with.

kgutteridge 16y ago

Good to see we got more notice than the 40 days last year, which made it a royal pain for anyone coming from the Worldwide part of this developer conference. Whilst an expensive trip if it is anywhere near as useful as it was in 2009, its well worth it. If it sells out, you have to wonder whether the developer part of the conference should be ticketed separately from the keynote, as I would happily miss the keynote for access to the information.

38leinad 16y ago

Will be my first time at the conference. Don't know anybody, but really looking forward to meet some nice people and get some first-hand knowledge! :-D

chicagobob 16y ago
I highly recommend you read Jeff LaMarche's WWDC survival guide. http://iphonedevelopment.blogspot.com/2011/03/wwdc-first-timer-survival-guide-2011.html http://iphonedevelopment.blogspot.com/2011/03/wwdc-first-tim...
greengarstudios 16y ago
yeah, let's meet. this will be my 3rd time.

koko775 16y ago

Argh, If only I could afford it. All of my money is tied up by sending it home to support my parents. :(

daimyoyo 16y ago

I'm learning the iOS SDK and I think I'd truly benefit from attending, but the $1600 price is WAY out of what I can reasonably afford. So does Apple ever offer reduced rates for people just starting out? Seems to me that'd be a wise investment on their part. After all, if they offer seats for 75% off, and just one person makes a blockbuster app, they'll more than make the difference up in app store and or iAds fees.

mattparcher 16y ago
If you’re a registered developer, the session videos and materials will be on iTunes, after some delay.
- stevejohnson 16y ago
  In recent years the delay has gone from months, to a month, to weeks, to a week, to mere days. This year, I wouldn't be surprised if they weren't online the day after they were given.
  - jonhendry 16y ago
    And the price for the videos went from $500 for 2009 to $0 for 2010.
gaiusparx 16y ago
Discount will never happen as the seats are booked solid very quickly. It is price that high partly due to high demand. If it is priced at $500, all the seats will be taken within minutes. I hope Apple will follow last WWDC by releasing the session videos free into iTunes U after the event.
kenferry 16y ago
There are student scholarships that aren't super difficult to get, but I think that's it.

jchrisa 16y ago

This will be my first WWDC. :)

jonhendry 16y ago

I'll be there. My first developer conference since NeXTWorld Expo 1994.

spearo77 16y ago

Incredibly, it's already sold out! https://twitter.com/jury/status/52503970022817792 https://twitter.com/jury/status/52503970022817792