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Actually it translated to "have to", not "should" (which would more properly be "sollten").

by brummm 6y ago

dathinab 6y ago
Better "will have to" .. "if the law is passed".
- this_user 6y ago
  I would say it more precisely translates to "are supposed to". Although it is clear from the actual content of the article that it would not really be a choice.
  - qwertox 6y ago
    No, "are supposed to" is less strict than "must". If the law passes, then they must allow the intelligence services to do this. Or "will have to" if they want to continue to be in the business.
Youden 6y ago
I'm learning German at a fairly low level so I ask this from the perspective of wanting to learn, not as a challenge. Wouldn't "have to" be "müssen"? In what cases would you use "sollen" to have a similar meaning? And "sollten" is either Präteritum or Konjunctive II, which as I understand it would both mean "should have", though in different senses. Why is that a more proper translation of "should"?
- r6203 6y ago
  Most of the times, "sollen" and "müssen" are interchangeable. However, there are fine nuances between the words. In that case, "müssen" is more direct and used as a command which has consequences when not followed while "sollen" is more of a prompt or demand that hasn't to be followed.
  - kaybe 6y ago
    I think a better translation for 'sollen' would be 'shall'.
    - Mirioron 6y ago
      And "müssen" is "must".
- brummm 6y ago
  Sollten is indeed Konjunktiv.
dirkt 6y ago
Full text from the netzpolitik article: > Provider sollen Internetverkehr umleiten, damit Geheimdienste hacken können > Geheimdienste wollen Hardware bei Internet-Providern installieren, um Staatstrojaner in Datenverkehr einzuschleusen. Das steht in einem Gesetzentwurf zum Verfassungsschutzrecht, den die Bundesregierung nächste Woche beschließen will. Die Provider wollen keine Hilfssheriffs sein. > [...] > Konkret müssen Anbieter die Installation des Staatstrojaners „durch Unterstützung bei der Umleitung von Telekommunikation … ermöglichen“. So it translates to "would have to, if the law goes into effect unchanged".

Actually it translated to "have to", not "should" (which would more properly be "sollten").

by brummm 6y ago

Actually it translated to "have to", not "should" (which would more properly be "sollten").

dathinab 6y ago

Better "will have to" .. "if the law is passed".

this_user 6y ago
I would say it more precisely translates to "are supposed to". Although it is clear from the actual content of the article that it would not really be a choice.
- qwertox 6y ago
  No, "are supposed to" is less strict than "must". If the law passes, then they must allow the intelligence services to do this. Or "will have to" if they want to continue to be in the business.

Youden 6y ago

I'm learning German at a fairly low level so I ask this from the perspective of wanting to learn, not as a challenge. Wouldn't "have to" be "müssen"? In what cases would you use "sollen" to have a similar meaning? And "sollten" is either Präteritum or Konjunctive II, which as I understand it would both mean "should have", though in different senses. Why is that a more proper translation of "should"?

r6203 6y ago
Most of the times, "sollen" and "müssen" are interchangeable. However, there are fine nuances between the words. In that case, "müssen" is more direct and used as a command which has consequences when not followed while "sollen" is more of a prompt or demand that hasn't to be followed.
- kaybe 6y ago
  I think a better translation for 'sollen' would be 'shall'.
  - Mirioron 6y ago
    And "müssen" is "must".
brummm 6y ago
Sollten is indeed Konjunktiv.

dirkt 6y ago

Full text from the netzpolitik article: > Provider sollen Internetverkehr umleiten, damit Geheimdienste hacken können > Geheimdienste wollen Hardware bei Internet-Providern installieren, um Staatstrojaner in Datenverkehr einzuschleusen. Das steht in einem Gesetzentwurf zum Verfassungsschutzrecht, den die Bundesregierung nächste Woche beschließen will. Die Provider wollen keine Hilfssheriffs sein. > [...] > Konkret müssen Anbieter die Installation des Staatstrojaners „durch Unterstützung bei der Umleitung von Telekommunikation … ermöglichen“. So it translates to "would have to, if the law goes into effect unchanged".