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Image hit counters! Who's going to build the github developer web ring? We need all the old things back.

sneak 6y ago
If we’re going back to the 90s, can we re-embrace avoidance of proprietary Microsoft tools (GitHub) in favor of f/oss alternatives?
- mahaganapati 6y ago
  What do you recommend? There was one I remember seeing the name of here but I've forgotten
  - brian_herman__ 6y ago
    https://sourcehut.org/ https://sourcehut.org/ the owner is a frequent hacker news poster.
    - mahaganapati 6y ago
      Yep that was the one! Thank you
  - sneak 6y ago
    Personally, I self-host Gitea. It works extremely well. It has webhooks that tie nicely into my (also self-hosted) Drone (CI) and Mattermost (f/oss self-hosted Slack replacement) and CapRover (self-hosted Heroku) setups.
    - mahaganapati 6y ago
      That's awesome! It sounds like a great setup for a solo dev wanting to save money, or even for bootstrapping a startup. Thanks for sharing
      - sneak 6y ago
        On a $300/mo server from Hetzner it can run git, CI, image registry, Mattermost, email, wiki, Discourse, Mumble, and host a bunch of apps (dev, stage, prod) without breaking a sweat. I set up the filesystem so it stores all server state for all apps and stuff in a single directory tree (thanks to Docker you can mount whatever source directories you want into a container at any path). A continuous rsync job in a loop makes sure that that directory tree is always synchronized onto another $20/mo VPS elsewhere. (Failures on that backup machine/script are reported realtime via webhooks back into Mattermost.) It's a really robust system (for a single machine) and thanks to everything being containerized, can be easily replicated from the backup host back onto a new machine in under an hour or so in the event of crash/disaster. For 90% of small businesses, even the $300/mo server is significant overprovisioning/overkill.
        mahaganapati 6y ago
        Thanks for the further detail! I'm favorit-ing your reply for when I'll need to set up something like this soon. I appreciate it!
  - megous 6y ago
    nginx+git+cgit
    - brian_herman__ 6y ago
      That is an alternative, if you are using git you probably are well versed in Linux.
stingraycharles 6y ago
Were webrings implemented using image tags as well? My memory is faint, I remember having to copy/paste quite large a snippet of code, but don’t remember the actual implementation. It’s probably infinitely more simple than I think it was.
- JoblessWonder 6y ago
  There was a whole block of pre-formatted HTML you would have to insert into your website. When you clicked on a button to navigate the ring it would like to a cgi script on the "owners" domain to take you to the next site. Edit: Down this [1] page a little bit you can see an example of the code you would have to copy/paste [1] https://web.archive.org/web/19970616173036/http://www.acmepet.com/chat/ring/ https://web.archive.org/web/19970616173036/http://www.acmepe...
JoblessWonder 6y ago
[inserts gif of visitor counter spinning out of control] [also adds in some "under construction" gifs] I really wish I had some way to access my original AOL website. So many memories... and web ring links...
- deleted 6y ago
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- airstrike 6y ago
  Could always browse http://oocities.org http://oocities.org for some similar memories!

If we’re going back to the 90s, can we re-embrace avoidance of proprietary Microsoft tools (GitHub) in favor of f/oss alternatives?

mahaganapati 6y ago
What do you recommend? There was one I remember seeing the name of here but I've forgotten
- brian_herman__ 6y ago
  https://sourcehut.org/ https://sourcehut.org/ the owner is a frequent hacker news poster.
  - mahaganapati 6y ago
    Yep that was the one! Thank you
- sneak 6y ago
  Personally, I self-host Gitea. It works extremely well. It has webhooks that tie nicely into my (also self-hosted) Drone (CI) and Mattermost (f/oss self-hosted Slack replacement) and CapRover (self-hosted Heroku) setups.
  - mahaganapati 6y ago
    That's awesome! It sounds like a great setup for a solo dev wanting to save money, or even for bootstrapping a startup. Thanks for sharing
    - sneak 6y ago
      On a $300/mo server from Hetzner it can run git, CI, image registry, Mattermost, email, wiki, Discourse, Mumble, and host a bunch of apps (dev, stage, prod) without breaking a sweat. I set up the filesystem so it stores all server state for all apps and stuff in a single directory tree (thanks to Docker you can mount whatever source directories you want into a container at any path). A continuous rsync job in a loop makes sure that that directory tree is always synchronized onto another $20/mo VPS elsewhere. (Failures on that backup machine/script are reported realtime via webhooks back into Mattermost.) It's a really robust system (for a single machine) and thanks to everything being containerized, can be easily replicated from the backup host back onto a new machine in under an hour or so in the event of crash/disaster. For 90% of small businesses, even the $300/mo server is significant overprovisioning/overkill.
      - mahaganapati 6y ago
        Thanks for the further detail! I'm favorit-ing your reply for when I'll need to set up something like this soon. I appreciate it!
- megous 6y ago
  nginx+git+cgit
  - brian_herman__ 6y ago
    That is an alternative, if you are using git you probably are well versed in Linux.

stingraycharles 6y ago

Were webrings implemented using image tags as well? My memory is faint, I remember having to copy/paste quite large a snippet of code, but don’t remember the actual implementation. It’s probably infinitely more simple than I think it was.

JoblessWonder 6y ago
There was a whole block of pre-formatted HTML you would have to insert into your website. When you clicked on a button to navigate the ring it would like to a cgi script on the "owners" domain to take you to the next site. Edit: Down this [1] page a little bit you can see an example of the code you would have to copy/paste [1] https://web.archive.org/web/19970616173036/http://www.acmepet.com/chat/ring/ https://web.archive.org/web/19970616173036/http://www.acmepe...

JoblessWonder 6y ago

[inserts gif of visitor counter spinning out of control] [also adds in some "under construction" gifs] I really wish I had some way to access my original AOL website. So many memories... and web ring links...

deleted 6y ago
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airstrike 6y ago
Could always browse http://oocities.org http://oocities.org for some similar memories!