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I live in a state which has one of the highest new-cases-per-day number, and we can still go get take-out. 1) I call in my order. 2) I drive to the restaurant.

by _sbrk 6y ago

I live in a state which has one of the highest new-cases-per-day number, and we can still go get take-out. 1) I call in my order. 2) I drive to the restaurant. 3) I put my mask on. 4) I go inside, get my sack of food. 5) I drive home. We do a lot of cooking at home, which we find to be enjoyable, so this doesn't happen very often. Costco same-day (via Instacart), even when it tacks on 20% to the cost of items, is perfectly acceptable to me.

amyjess 6y ago
Quarantine means quarantine. It sounds like you're failing to properly observe quarantine. 1. I don't have a vehicle of any kind. 2. I am at severely high risk for COVID-19 complications due to multiple medical problems, and I cannot enter a building other than my house under any circumstances. 3. Masks do absolutely nothing to protect you; they protect other people from you. You should wear a mask in case you're sick and asymptomatic so nobody gets the virus from you, but it won't prevent you from getting infected. 4. I am autistic and cannot wear a mask for more than a couple of minutes due to sensory issues, and during those couple of minutes I am constantly touching my face. Because I'm not an irresponsible maniac, I am doubly committed to staying home 24/7 for the entire duration of the pandemic. Even if I wasn't at elevated risk for complications, I would not leave my house unless I was dying. 5. Multiple studies have shown that the virus aerosolizes in your breath and hangs in the air after you breathe for several minutes, if not hours. If there is any kind of fan, the aerosol will be blown all over the entire interior of the building and everyone gets infected. If not, it hangs in place and anyone who walks through anywhere you ever stood will get infected.
- _sbrk 6y ago
  Obtaining food and vital supplies (medicine, TP, etc.) is allowed by _all_ lockdown measures I've seen so far. If I'm wrong, provide a URL. 1. Your choice. You failed to plan, so you planned to fail. 2. It is my sincere hope that you remain healthy. 3. A N95 or better mask, plus protective eyewear, has been proven to prevent infection. https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/931551 https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/931551 (edit: you edited your numbered points, so I had to re-order and add) 4. While your autism is not to be minimized, choosing to remain isolated is something only you can decide. You are not the only person with problems .. we all live with our own little hell. 5. If this were true, and not subject to eventual (probably exponential) decay, then the entire world will be infected at some point. The realities: I. There may never be an effective vaccine for this coronavirus. The common cold is also a coronavirus, and we don't have a vaccine or cure for that. II. Improving your heath, in any way possible, including losing weight and eating nutritious foods, will help to tilt the risk table in your favor. III. Vitamin D3 blood level is inversely related to serious outcomes. If you're not taking it already, start now. I am not a doctor, and this is not medical advice. https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.05.01.20087965v3 https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.05.01.20087965v... IV. Realize that life is risk. Choose wisely.
  - amyjess 6y ago
    I'm not talking about lockdown laws. I'm talking about observing proper quarantine procedures. If you are leaving your house for any reason, you are not properly quarantining even if you aren't violating lockdown laws, and you are actively _part_ of the reason your state "has one of the highest new-cases-per-day number". I am under a proper, strict quarantine. > Your choice. You failed to plan, so you planned to fail. Hi, I have considerable disabilities and cannot operate a motor vehicle under any circumstances. Engaging in victim blaming really doesn't make you look good.
    - _sbrk 6y ago
      If no-one left the house, there would be no food, water, or electricity. Your argument breaks down at this point. You are, apparently, a reasonably intelligent person capable of highly-structured thoughts. Survival in the world is not guaranteed, and it is your responsibility to work around hardships you encounter. Please refrain from the "victim" word, as this is just the hand of cards you were dealt. We all have a hand of cards that we have to play. Nobody's life is perfect. (Just saw your profile. Let me know if you need me to drop off anything, we are allowed by Abbott to go out -- he's in a wheelchair and still makes it happen.)
      - jbay808 6y ago
        (replying here because in your flagged post you asked for lockdown laws that prevent you from going out to buy food) In BC and probably most of Canada, you have to quarantine for 14 days when you enter the country. You are not allowed out farther than your front yard/balcony, and you need to sign a form before you enter claiming that you acknowledge this and have arranged all necessary plans in advance to allow you to get the food and medication that you'll need. The penalty for violating this is $750,000 and/or six months in prison.
        _sbrk 6y ago
        (Ah, yes, flag when you disagree. How does one challenge a flag?) There are similar quarantines for individual States in the U.S.A., or at least there were. However, once you've exited the true quarantine period, there are no restrictions on movement. In _this_ thread, the poster to whom I'm replying asserts that we are under quarantine in Texas, which we are not. Most of the restrictions from the State, counties, and local government apply to businesses, not to individuals. The recent face-covering order is a good one, to prevent coughing, sneezing, or just forceful talking from spreading to someone in front of you. However, we're free to move about as needed, as we should be. Anyone who wants to go 100% isolation, that's fine and I have no qualms. However, I prefer to take a few more calculated risks and live some semblance of my former life before the COVID-19.

by _sbrk 6y ago

amyjess 6y ago

Quarantine means quarantine. It sounds like you're failing to properly observe quarantine. 1. I don't have a vehicle of any kind. 2. I am at severely high risk for COVID-19 complications due to multiple medical problems, and I cannot enter a building other than my house under any circumstances. 3. Masks do absolutely nothing to protect you; they protect other people from you. You should wear a mask in case you're sick and asymptomatic so nobody gets the virus from you, but it won't prevent you from getting infected. 4. I am autistic and cannot wear a mask for more than a couple of minutes due to sensory issues, and during those couple of minutes I am constantly touching my face. Because I'm not an irresponsible maniac, I am doubly committed to staying home 24/7 for the entire duration of the pandemic. Even if I wasn't at elevated risk for complications, I would not leave my house unless I was dying. 5. Multiple studies have shown that the virus aerosolizes in your breath and hangs in the air after you breathe for several minutes, if not hours. If there is any kind of fan, the aerosol will be blown all over the entire interior of the building and everyone gets infected. If not, it hangs in place and anyone who walks through anywhere you ever stood will get infected.

_sbrk 6y ago
Obtaining food and vital supplies (medicine, TP, etc.) is allowed by _all_ lockdown measures I've seen so far. If I'm wrong, provide a URL. 1. Your choice. You failed to plan, so you planned to fail. 2. It is my sincere hope that you remain healthy. 3. A N95 or better mask, plus protective eyewear, has been proven to prevent infection. https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/931551 https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/931551 (edit: you edited your numbered points, so I had to re-order and add) 4. While your autism is not to be minimized, choosing to remain isolated is something only you can decide. You are not the only person with problems .. we all live with our own little hell. 5. If this were true, and not subject to eventual (probably exponential) decay, then the entire world will be infected at some point. The realities: I. There may never be an effective vaccine for this coronavirus. The common cold is also a coronavirus, and we don't have a vaccine or cure for that. II. Improving your heath, in any way possible, including losing weight and eating nutritious foods, will help to tilt the risk table in your favor. III. Vitamin D3 blood level is inversely related to serious outcomes. If you're not taking it already, start now. I am not a doctor, and this is not medical advice. https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.05.01.20087965v3 https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.05.01.20087965v... IV. Realize that life is risk. Choose wisely.
- amyjess 6y ago
  I'm not talking about lockdown laws. I'm talking about observing proper quarantine procedures. If you are leaving your house for any reason, you are not properly quarantining even if you aren't violating lockdown laws, and you are actively _part_ of the reason your state "has one of the highest new-cases-per-day number". I am under a proper, strict quarantine. > Your choice. You failed to plan, so you planned to fail. Hi, I have considerable disabilities and cannot operate a motor vehicle under any circumstances. Engaging in victim blaming really doesn't make you look good.
  - _sbrk 6y ago
    If no-one left the house, there would be no food, water, or electricity. Your argument breaks down at this point. You are, apparently, a reasonably intelligent person capable of highly-structured thoughts. Survival in the world is not guaranteed, and it is your responsibility to work around hardships you encounter. Please refrain from the "victim" word, as this is just the hand of cards you were dealt. We all have a hand of cards that we have to play. Nobody's life is perfect. (Just saw your profile. Let me know if you need me to drop off anything, we are allowed by Abbott to go out -- he's in a wheelchair and still makes it happen.)
    - jbay808 6y ago
      (replying here because in your flagged post you asked for lockdown laws that prevent you from going out to buy food) In BC and probably most of Canada, you have to quarantine for 14 days when you enter the country. You are not allowed out farther than your front yard/balcony, and you need to sign a form before you enter claiming that you acknowledge this and have arranged all necessary plans in advance to allow you to get the food and medication that you'll need. The penalty for violating this is $750,000 and/or six months in prison.
      - _sbrk 6y ago
        (Ah, yes, flag when you disagree. How does one challenge a flag?) There are similar quarantines for individual States in the U.S.A., or at least there were. However, once you've exited the true quarantine period, there are no restrictions on movement. In _this_ thread, the poster to whom I'm replying asserts that we are under quarantine in Texas, which we are not. Most of the restrictions from the State, counties, and local government apply to businesses, not to individuals. The recent face-covering order is a good one, to prevent coughing, sneezing, or just forceful talking from spreading to someone in front of you. However, we're free to move about as needed, as we should be. Anyone who wants to go 100% isolation, that's fine and I have no qualms. However, I prefer to take a few more calculated risks and live some semblance of my former life before the COVID-19.