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You missed the first question: > why wouldn't a company hire a contractor to do the same thing you do for a one-off fee? I just don't see why this is a subscri

by oars 6y ago

You missed the first question: > why wouldn't a company hire a contractor to do the same thing you do for a one-off fee? I just don't see why this is a subscription model This is something I am curious about as well.

kavehkhorram 6y ago
Our recommendations break into two categories: 1. Annual recommendations (Reserved Instances, Savings Plans) Sure, if a company only wants these recommendations - they can bring on a contractor once per year to do these changes. This is the one-off fee type contractor the poster is talking about 2. Continuous recommendations (Rightsizing, Spot Management) These recommendations are typically not something you could do once and be done. Rightsizing (which includes zombie instance detection) can happen through time. Spot Fleet management is also a continuous play - spot prices fluctuate and Usage's strategy works hard to maximize savings while minimizing downtime. You might ask, how does this compare to hiring a contractor full time? If you're a midsized company, Usage charges $5k/month (or $60k/year). A fulltime contractor in SV would likely be at least $100k/year and that doesn't factor in the number of billable hours (through interviewing) it would take to find someone who knows 50%+ of all of AWS' features.
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- mtnGoat 6y ago
  I don't agree with that cost comparison. I don't think you need a full time contractor for this, maybe just someone you pay to check things out for an hour or two per month. This is a task any reasonable skilled sysad or devops lead should be on top of as part of their daily work. I'd say managing our large(high 5 figures monthly) account takes less then two hours per month to audit.
  - kavehkhorram 6y ago
    It really depends on the size and configuration of the organization. It might be manageable at a few dozen people, but it becomes much more difficult to scale when you have 1,000+ engineers all working on different accounts with different architectures and requirements. Additionally, our growth and enterprise plans all have guaranteed savings. 3x and 5x, respectively. For instance, if you chose the growth plan ($5k/month) and saved less than $180k after 12 months, we'd give you a 100% refund. Similarly, if you chose the enterprise plan ($10k/month) and saved less than $600k after 12 months, we'd give you a 100% refund.

by oars 6y ago

kavehkhorram 6y ago

Our recommendations break into two categories: 1. Annual recommendations (Reserved Instances, Savings Plans) Sure, if a company only wants these recommendations - they can bring on a contractor once per year to do these changes. This is the one-off fee type contractor the poster is talking about 2. Continuous recommendations (Rightsizing, Spot Management) These recommendations are typically not something you could do once and be done. Rightsizing (which includes zombie instance detection) can happen through time. Spot Fleet management is also a continuous play - spot prices fluctuate and Usage's strategy works hard to maximize savings while minimizing downtime. You might ask, how does this compare to hiring a contractor full time? If you're a midsized company, Usage charges $5k/month (or $60k/year). A fulltime contractor in SV would likely be at least $100k/year and that doesn't factor in the number of billable hours (through interviewing) it would take to find someone who knows 50%+ of all of AWS' features.

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mtnGoat 6y ago
I don't agree with that cost comparison. I don't think you need a full time contractor for this, maybe just someone you pay to check things out for an hour or two per month. This is a task any reasonable skilled sysad or devops lead should be on top of as part of their daily work. I'd say managing our large(high 5 figures monthly) account takes less then two hours per month to audit.
- kavehkhorram 6y ago
  It really depends on the size and configuration of the organization. It might be manageable at a few dozen people, but it becomes much more difficult to scale when you have 1,000+ engineers all working on different accounts with different architectures and requirements. Additionally, our growth and enterprise plans all have guaranteed savings. 3x and 5x, respectively. For instance, if you chose the growth plan ($5k/month) and saved less than $180k after 12 months, we'd give you a 100% refund. Similarly, if you chose the enterprise plan ($10k/month) and saved less than $600k after 12 months, we'd give you a 100% refund.