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Why on earth would you run a Tor node on an IP that you use for any personal transactions? This isn't surprising in the least.

viraptor 6y ago
I think you're confusing a relay and an exit node here. Pretty much everyone using Tor runs a node and for virtually everyone it's on IP also used for personal transactions. There are silly services which take every tor node as suspicious. They're wrong, but it doesn't matter if you get banned.
- glenneroo 6y ago
  I also considered bringing up that point, but then I actually looked it up[0]: > Tor relays are also referred to as "routers" or "nodes." They receive traffic on the Tor network and pass it along. Check out the Tor website for a more detailed explanation of how Tor works. [0]: https://www.eff.org/torchallenge/what-is-tor.html https://www.eff.org/torchallenge/what-is-tor.html
  - yjftsjthsd-h 6y ago
    How does that change anything? The point is that a relay isn't an exit node, so there's no reasonable reason to block them.
    - saurik 6y ago
      You don't seem to understand what the terminology is... exit relays are relays. > There are three kinds of relays that you can run in order to help the Tor network: middle relays, exit relays, and bridges.
      - viraptor 6y ago
        There's dictionary definition and there's typical usage. When people say relay node, they typically don't mean exit nodes. Not 100% correct, but the assumption is common.
glenneroo 6y ago
Excuse my ignorance, but why should I not be allowed to run a Tor relay (not an exit node!) at home when I have sufficient bandwidth and purchased a static IP through my IP which they advertise even "to allow running of private servers"? I thought one of the points of the article was the propagation and subsequent democratization of Tor/Onion sites? If I have to rent a VPS to run a node, isn't half the point defeated? IMO the real issue is that my bank is reckless for picking a shitty UK service (who don't even speak our local language - just imagine some poor soul getting blocked because someone else running a Tor node over DHCP).
- bzb3 6y ago
  You're allowed, but you will be blacklisted by many services... I also agree that it shouldn't be a problem if you're not an exit node, but that's the way it works.
  - glenneroo 6y ago
    Many? What other services do you know of that will be blocked? You speak as if you have a lot of knowledge/experience in this area.
    - bzb3 6y ago
      The list of tor nodes is public, and many sysadmins simply import it without thinking much about it. Even though they should only ban exit nodes.
      - glenneroo 6y ago
        Thanks for that info, I had no idea it was that bad. It's horrible yet understandable, with so many underpaid, overworked sysadmins out there (i can count myself as one of them).

viraptor 6y ago

I think you're confusing a relay and an exit node here. Pretty much everyone using Tor runs a node and for virtually everyone it's on IP also used for personal transactions. There are silly services which take every tor node as suspicious. They're wrong, but it doesn't matter if you get banned.

glenneroo 6y ago
I also considered bringing up that point, but then I actually looked it up[0]: > Tor relays are also referred to as "routers" or "nodes." They receive traffic on the Tor network and pass it along. Check out the Tor website for a more detailed explanation of how Tor works. [0]: https://www.eff.org/torchallenge/what-is-tor.html https://www.eff.org/torchallenge/what-is-tor.html
- yjftsjthsd-h 6y ago
  How does that change anything? The point is that a relay isn't an exit node, so there's no reasonable reason to block them.
  - saurik 6y ago
    You don't seem to understand what the terminology is... exit relays are relays. > There are three kinds of relays that you can run in order to help the Tor network: middle relays, exit relays, and bridges.
    - viraptor 6y ago
      There's dictionary definition and there's typical usage. When people say relay node, they typically don't mean exit nodes. Not 100% correct, but the assumption is common.

glenneroo 6y ago

Excuse my ignorance, but why should I not be allowed to run a Tor relay (not an exit node!) at home when I have sufficient bandwidth and purchased a static IP through my IP which they advertise even "to allow running of private servers"? I thought one of the points of the article was the propagation and subsequent democratization of Tor/Onion sites? If I have to rent a VPS to run a node, isn't half the point defeated? IMO the real issue is that my bank is reckless for picking a shitty UK service (who don't even speak our local language - just imagine some poor soul getting blocked because someone else running a Tor node over DHCP).

bzb3 6y ago
You're allowed, but you will be blacklisted by many services... I also agree that it shouldn't be a problem if you're not an exit node, but that's the way it works.
- glenneroo 6y ago
  Many? What other services do you know of that will be blocked? You speak as if you have a lot of knowledge/experience in this area.
  - bzb3 6y ago
    The list of tor nodes is public, and many sysadmins simply import it without thinking much about it. Even though they should only ban exit nodes.
    - glenneroo 6y ago
      Thanks for that info, I had no idea it was that bad. It's horrible yet understandable, with so many underpaid, overworked sysadmins out there (i can count myself as one of them).